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Post by Japic on Nov 9, 2004 9:59:10 GMT -5
Listening to all the talks of honorable combat with the forces of evil, Girud turns to Krysta.
"The dwarf speaks true friend. I think it may be possible for any one of our number to face this foe in melee combat and be victorious. However, I think that these Trolls will not simply walk away when their leader is gone."
To all those assembled nearby:
"The Master seeks to destroy all life in this world, including this place. Not even surrenduring the Crystal would save these people from the fate that the Master has chosen for them. Look at this. Why else does the Master have hundreds of his troops right outside this gate? They were here long before the crystal was brought inside. They were coming for the town regardless. The crystal is just an added bonus. They will attack no matter what. These crystals have amazing power, different powers from what I have seen. What is this one capable of? I am sure that whatever it is can be more useful to destroy this fog, than it will be if it were launched far away."
Looking at Delomme Girud continues.
"You and your people appear ready to combat this foe. You have been preparing for a long time for this moment. Why do you hold back? Now is the time to crush this slaughter fog. We can help you do it."
"I propose using every projectile at our disposal to send a fatal volley at them. That can be augmented by the mages and other ranged attackers. I would be willing to go over the wall and combat anything that comes my way. If many of us were to stand together then these foul creatures will stand no chance against us. All that we would need is something to disperse the fog."
Girud looks to the elven mages that came with.
"What have you got to destroy that fog?"
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Post by TheUdjat on Nov 9, 2004 10:13:32 GMT -5
Caelith, who had been idly looking out at the fog this entire time, finally responds by clearing his throat and turning to face the others. "While the nobility and honor inherent in a one-on-one fight, like Garor, I do not anticipate its success. These creatures are not known for their nobility, and when they clearly have the advantage of strength, I doubt they will be convinced to bargain that advantage away. Besides which, I believe one detail has been overlooked - Are we absolutely sure that these trolls are alive?" He raises an eyebrow, and gestures to the unseen horde. "All we have are tracks as evidence, no? We cannot see them. We have not talked to them. For all we know, they could be undead trolls, guided by few, or even one single master. Perhaps not the Master, but..." He shrugs.
"On the other hand, there may be next to nothing at all within that fog. We have no way of knowing, and that is to their advantage. All we know for certain is that everything the fog has covered has been destroyed, indeed? Therefore, I propose we get rid of the fog." He stares out at it again, allowing this thought to linger in the air.
"I believe it is safe to assume that this fog is magical in nature. It behaves like no normal fogs, following those within, and apparently allowing them to see beyond. The sunlight does not dispel it. However, having some experience with magical fog, it is not impervious to all intervention... Fire and high winds, specifically, are known for their ability to eliminate magical fog." He pivots to turn to Delomme. "Has this been attempted before? Do we know, offhand, whether such attempts will fail? If so, then we are back to seeking an alternative. Otherwise..." He thinks to himself, then nods. "Like the others in my company, I am capable of travelling nigh-instantaneously. We have an hour. If I can report to Ravenshead and be allowed to use what magical scrolls might be available there - as I believe I will be allowed to, upon explaining our plight - then I think I may secure use the spells needed to be rid of this fog. If I, indeed, can get rid of it, then we might have a chance of evening the odds here. It is the only thing, I believe, that we can do to shatter the confidence of whatever is within the fog. They have never even been contested, let alone beaten. I do not think even making them believe they are surrounded will suffice to delay this matter."
"Otherwise, we may attempt talks. Do they know how long it takes to aim Fortress Breaker? If not, then we may use this to our advantage. Tell them that you favor no-one's claim to the crystal, Delomme, but that if they invade, you will shoot it into the far reaches of the ocean, lost to everyone. If they want the shard, this may cause them pause, and if they don't know you're unable to do this, it will be weight to your argument. That should allow us to talk with the fog's master, and organize some means of settling the dispute that does not result in a grand scale battle. Perhaps then one-on-one combat will be an option."
"What say the rest of you? Shall we try these plans? I would recomment talking before attempting to be rid of the fog. If it doesn't work, after all, we are worse than when we started."
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Post by TheUdjat on Nov 9, 2004 10:47:33 GMT -5
Oh, and I think Caelith and Hero missed the leveling too. ((My lightning bolt says otherwise.  )) |
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Post by K Man on Nov 9, 2004 10:57:30 GMT -5
{This is good debate people. Want me to keep it going? If not, I have the plan as such;
Delomme will attempt to Parley.
If success, slow down SlaughterFog enough to fire Fortress-Breaker.
If successful, fire crystal into 'The Glade'.
If SlaughterFog gives chase, party splits again as larger group heads to 'The Glade', other head elsewhere after rest.
If unseuccessful in Parley, an attempt to rid the SlaughterFog of the misty barrier will be made with scrolls, items etc from Ravenshead.
Once fog is lifted, battle begins...
Or if sunsuccessful in parley, a challenge will be made for a singel combatant to enter a duel with SlaughterFog lead warrior...
All opposed? All in favor? of either option?}
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Post by Fangor the Fierce on Nov 9, 2004 11:27:37 GMT -5
{This is good debate people. Want me to keep it going? If not, I have the plan as such; Once fog is lifted, battle begins... OOC - So if we lift the fog....a battle begins... "I am but a warrior, leader by appointment. This decision must be put to vote. I am for sending the spell user back for scrolls, if possbile. Their aid in magic use would be greatly needed. The rest of us can prepare for battle, should it come to that. A duel, even if successful and the enemy reacts with vengeance, would still prove fruitful, as their leader or leade warrior would then be dead. Whatever is decided, I will follow as well." She turns to the elves, who have been put into her charge. "You will now have your chance to deal a blow to the Master. You said why not take the shard and leave. I take it that you have another means to teleport us again. If the time comes, we may need to teleport to the outskirts of the enemy lines, and strike them from the rear as well. Flanking them if possible. This is all too familiar..." To The Rock, "You may have chosen the wrong time to follow us again. Let us hope not. What can you tell us of these trolls? Of this fog?" |
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Post by Wizard on Nov 9, 2004 12:33:36 GMT -5
(I'm in favor of Kman's plan, though I'm not in favor of single combat, except as a measure to buy time.)
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Post by Japic on Nov 9, 2004 13:08:32 GMT -5
I'm not so in favor of the plan. Even if we buy time they will still attack. There is no way that the Master is going to let this bastion stand, especially since they've been firing shit at his castle with that fortress-breaker.
If we go with the hope that everything wil be fine once it's clear of the walls, then we're setting ourselves up for serious disappointnemt when that fails.
When the battle is over, then it can be shot off, but its valuable healing (girud doesn't know that) will be needed here to help the wounded fight for thier lives.
The only way to prevail is to use ALL of our strength to do this thing. The last castle (freehold) may have fared better had we all been inside of it, instead of dragged off to be slaves. I'd rather not make that mistake again.
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Post by Wizard on Nov 9, 2004 13:15:17 GMT -5
(Alrighty...hit us hard, Kman.  EDIT: A horde of monsters. A hoard of treasure. A miser hoards gold. |
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Post by Jevva on Nov 9, 2004 13:25:59 GMT -5
OOC: Dan, that isn't a haiku. But to get back on topic, there's nothing wrong with TFW when it comes to dueling. Besides, shields only give you a +1 AC bonus. Even if you do somehow prove that S&S is better than TWF, I'm going to complete ignore you, since you know how much I love TWF, *cough* 2e rangers *cough*. Anyway, I definitely think that going back to Ravenshead to get whatever magical aid possible is a good idea.
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Post by Fangor the Fierce on Nov 9, 2004 13:29:04 GMT -5
Krysta doesn't know this, but with the machinery here, who else knows machinery this well??? Who was the dwarf that created the vein riding machine....cogs, gears....perhaps his expertise can get this machine turned even quicker.....
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Post by Wizard on Nov 9, 2004 13:40:24 GMT -5
(OOC: It wasn't a haiku, it was an example of which word is used for which meaning, 'cause I keep seeing "rich stockpiles" of monsters.
And 2WF suffers at least a -2 penalty to attack rolls, unless you've gone all the way to 10th lvl w/a Tempest from Masters of the Wild. If you happen to have an absurdly* high Str score, then TWF would be better against a single foe...but no one here does.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE TWF too. It's just not at its best against a single foe. It's AWESOME for creating a human Cuisinart.
And I don't know what kind of wimpy shield you're using, but mine gives me a +2 bonus to AC.)
*Rule of thumb? Your level +20
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Post by Hero on Nov 9, 2004 13:58:11 GMT -5
Hero agrees with Caelith's plan entirely. Single combat is just not an option with these trolls. We need magical aid to fight this enemy. If Caeilith could obtain scrolls that can bring wind and or fire then that seems like the best plan to Hero.
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Post by Fangor the Fierce on Nov 9, 2004 14:50:56 GMT -5
I am not disputing the fact that a single fight is the choice or not, and the reference to one of us not being able to stand up well against a troll is not alltogether true. With the abilities of this group, and the items we each have, if put on one person, that person would be a deadly weapon in their own right.
Imagine - Bracers of Armor +2, Ring of Protection +1, Fire Breath for three 4d6 fire attacks as well, wielding a Keen Flaming Longsword for an extra 1d6 damage per hit, Cloak of Resistance +3, AC of about 22 with Full Plate +1 (Spell Resistance 13), Boots of Striding and Springing, Bulls Strength, on a Half Giant that likes to Stomp things....
Two Weapon Fighting with Two Weapon Defense is Krysta's option. She would wield both weapons, but not attack with the secondary. That would give her two attacks with the Longsword, at +10/+5 and the potential for both hits, extra fire damage, and then the breath attack for an extra 4d6 damage.
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Post by Jevva on Nov 9, 2004 18:53:15 GMT -5
OOC: Oh yeah, good point, I totally forgot about TWD. And just because I'm not a metagamer like you and demand my CL +20 for an attack bonus... And the point is that I don't use a shield. And yet I get a shield bonus anyway.
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Post by Artemis on Nov 10, 2004 0:35:51 GMT -5
Angelus looks out over the edge of the battlements while his comrades figure out a plan of attack. This will not end well for us no matter what the outcome maybe. I sense there will be much blood let from our own when this is done and over with. He turns around and stares at each of the faces here. But why should I care? These people I hardly know. They even put me under arrest. Maybe I should just join the Master... No no I can't do that... He sighs as he turns once more to face the fog. What would father do? he would destroy them all...
He turns around once more his face resolute. "I will lend my will to this battle. Bring hell or high water I shall fight till the last breath in me is gone."
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