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Post by Althael on Sept 15, 2004 9:39:17 GMT -5
Since I'm not really familiar with the rules..
Well, I'm almost new in these and didn't really put overly attention on everything to know how it work.
I'm a bit confused about these 2 editions.
The rules are the same, they work exactly the same way. But I see everywhere that it's not compatible.
Wtf ?
If I use a supplement of the 3rd in a 3.5 game. It would 'unbalance' the game or I should simply not care?
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Post by IstarinCale on Sept 15, 2004 11:09:26 GMT -5
3.5 its like a patch to a game you might play (like Warcraft that I play).. Its just an improvement, more balancing, more rules, more stuff (Like: I don't recall psions in the 3rd edition - I didn't find a psionic book for 3rd edition eather.) so... Its not unbalanced, right the opposite - Its more balance (perfectly would sound nicer, but untrue..)
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Post by K Man on Sept 15, 2004 11:19:43 GMT -5
Close Flash.
Psionic were in 3.0, in a book called "The Complete Psionics Handbook" There is now a 3.5 edition of said book called "The expanded Psionics Handbook"
Regardless, to address Korone.
3.0 had some loopholes, some shortcomings and other issues that needed to be fixed. (In the game designer's eyes, and those of many players.) They edited some spells for clarifications and got rid of some, got more specific on actions and tweaked some character classes.
All in all ,it's basically the same game...just a few nuiances that are different. Like Flash said, it's basically a 'patch'.
Playing a 3.0 module is rarely broken anymore, unless it relies heavily on the few things that have changed. Some supplements however, have been labeled as broken. For instance, the Psionics. They are now updated and run almost completely different from 3.0. Some campaign settings have been made obsolete and they have re-issued many 'Complete or Expanded' books to cover their bases and lure suckers like me into buying them.
Hope that helps.
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Post by Althael on Sept 15, 2004 11:20:24 GMT -5
Ahh.. so it'll be better to stay away of the 3rd stuff in a 3.5 game?
Or simply say that it's an other version of the creature/magic/etc.
Since some stuffs seems a lot different..
Ok, they had remade the whole book collection simply to fix some stuff. How nice..
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Post by Japic on Sept 15, 2004 11:35:02 GMT -5
Correct the remade teh whole colelction so that they can fix a few sentences here and there. and we, like the consumers we are, buy new ones.
Most of the old (3.0) modules should still work the same. But on occasion it may refer to a skill that has been renamed or some such. i.e Survival, is now Wilderness Lore.
It's little stuff like that where you have to look closely.
Feel free to use the stuff, but remember that some of the data may have been tweeked, and you'll have to look it over to make sure it's nothing major.
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Post by Althael on Sept 15, 2004 11:47:31 GMT -5
Now I see the difference more clearly. Thx for the information.  |
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Post by Wizard on Oct 14, 2004 11:09:43 GMT -5
One thing you need to know 'cause it's gamer lore is the "Bag O'Rats" trick. You take a fighter with Whirlwind Attack, Cleave, Great Cleave and a bag of rats, send him up to Joe Evil Necromancer, and the fighter:
1)Releases the bag (free action), releasing the rats
2)uses Whirlwind Attack, killing each rat
3)gets an attack from Great Cleave for each rat he killed...which can get into the hundreds.
I seem to remember something about a bucket breaking lightspeed, but I forget how that one was done.
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Post by Toptomcat on Oct 23, 2004 17:33:46 GMT -5
A ludicrously long chain of people with readied actions could get a bucket from the beginning to the end of the chain in one round- six seconds- and thus if the chain was sufficiently long, the bucket neccesarily broke lightspeed to get to the end in time.
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Post by VemuKhaham on Oct 24, 2004 8:15:47 GMT -5
man this "rule abusing" is fun. Do any of you have any more of those? ;D ;D
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Post by Toptomcat on Oct 24, 2004 14:05:09 GMT -5
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Post by Althael on Oct 24, 2004 14:10:06 GMT -5
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Post by Toptomcat on Oct 24, 2004 14:40:02 GMT -5
Have you seen the later pages of that thread, where they begin seriously discussing destroying planets with later iterations of the build?
Nucking futz, I tell ya.
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Post by Althael on Oct 24, 2004 15:22:29 GMT -5
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Post by Toptomcat on Oct 24, 2004 16:17:08 GMT -5
Yeah, but they don't stat it.
The Wizards people actually can and do stat the ridicumongous planet-killing build.
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Post by Althael on Oct 24, 2004 19:11:09 GMT -5
Okey..  |
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Post by Toptomcat on Oct 24, 2004 19:50:20 GMT -5
Come to think, what's the highest ECL you've ever seen actually statted?
I've seen low triple digits.
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Post by Althael on Oct 25, 2004 12:01:33 GMT -5
Never seen that high.. |
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Post by Toptomcat on Oct 26, 2004 7:12:48 GMT -5
Didn't do it myself, mind...but those people on the WOTC boards are nuts.
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