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Post by TheUdjat on Dec 15, 2004 14:46:30 GMT -5
Girud, I believe, still has plate mail that is magic from the knight. So he should be okay there. Just thought I'd add that.  |
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Post by Wizard on Dec 15, 2004 15:02:38 GMT -5
I'd like to make a pass at that ring of minor cold resistance...
Fangor, I missed that whole Ref + 10 thing...your character sheet says +8.
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Post by Jevva on Dec 15, 2004 16:07:26 GMT -5
To tell you the truth, I would much rather have a ring of protection +2 than a +2 keen longsword. I am a samurai, after all, and I'd prefer to keep my +1/masterwork bastard sword that I got from the elves, since most of my class benefits come from that. Basically, what I'd be looking to take would be RoP +2, CoR +2, +2 chainmail, if we can't get our items working again, and I suppose the bow, if nobody wants it.
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Post by Fangor the Fierce on Dec 15, 2004 22:23:00 GMT -5
Wizard, you are right, I looked at the wrong line. Reflex is only +8 for Krysta. Sorry.
For the updates, there was still a Ring of Protection still left unclaimed, so that looks to go to Galdren. As does the +2 Chainmail.
NEW UPDATES:
Mordrock: Bracers of Archery, Robe of Blending
Krysta: Elven Chainmail +2, Quiver of Elhonna, +2 Mighty composite Longbow of Shock, Ring of Protection +2,
Hero: Cloak of Resistance +2, Ring of Minor Cold Resistance
Callian: Ring of Protection +2
Newt: Boots and Cloak of Elvenkind, Ring of Protection +2
Girud: Boots fo Levitation, Ring of Feather Falling, Bag of Holding Type III, Cloak of Resistance +2, Ring of Protection +2
Galdren: +1 Ghost Touch Mighty Composite Longbow of Shock, Cloak of resistance +2, Ring of Protection +2, +2 Chainmail
Caelith: Ring of Force Shield, Ring of Sustenance, Spell Book 1, Spell Book 2, Wand of Magic Missile, Wand of Searing Light, Bracers of Armour +2, and Headband of Intellect+4
Ring of Evasion: Krysta? Anyone higher than +8 Ref?
+1 Shield: UNCLAIMED, Fighter's Group?
Headband of Intellect +2: Mordrock?
Bracers of Armour +2: UNCLAIMED
Chainmail of Spell Resistance: UNCLAIMED, Fighter's Group?
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Post by Fangor the Fierce on Dec 15, 2004 22:24:36 GMT -5
I'd like to make a pass at that ring of minor cold resistance... Does that mean you want it, or are you passing on the chance? EDIT: Still not claimed as well, +2 Keen Longsword. The elven weapons are now only Masterwork, and not magical, Girud and Galdren. |
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Post by Hero on Dec 16, 2004 11:37:21 GMT -5
Wizard, you are right, I looked at the wrong line. Reflex is only +8 for Krysta. Sorry. For the updates, there was still a Ring of Protection still left unclaimed, so that looks to go to Galdren. As does the +2 Chainmail. NEW UPDATES: Mordrock: Bracers of Archery, Robe of Blending Krysta: Elven Chainmail +2, Quiver of Elhonna, +2 Mighty composite Longbow of Shock, Ring of Protection +2, Hero: Cloak of Resistance +2, Ring of Minor Cold Resistance Callian: Ring of Protection +2 Newt: Boots and Cloak of Elvenkind, Ring of Protection +2 Girud: Boots fo Levitation, Ring of Feather Falling, Bag of Holding Type III, Cloak of Resistance +2, Ring of Protection +2 Galdren: +1 Ghost Touch Mighty Composite Longbow of Shock, Cloak of resistance +2, Ring of Protection +2, +2 Chainmail Caelith: Ring of Force Shield, Ring of Sustenance, Spell Book 1, Spell Book 2, Wand of Magic Missile, Wand of Searing Light, Bracers of Armour +2, and Headband of Intellect+4 Ring of Evasion: Krysta? Anyone higher than +8 Ref? +1 Shield: UNCLAIMED, Fighter's Group? Headband of Intellect +2: Mordrock? Bracers of Armour +2: UNCLAIMED Chainmail of Spell Resistance: UNCLAIMED, Fighter's Group? I'm okay with what I got. Is this the final list? Wizard, if you aren't happy with your ring I will swap the cloak and ring of cold resistance for it. |
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Post by Fangor the Fierce on Dec 16, 2004 11:44:29 GMT -5
Well, unless someone speaks up, looks like it is the final list.
Ring of Evasion: Krysta
+1 Shield: UNCLAIMED, Bag of Holding
Headband of Intellect +2: Krysta (She is using the bonus to learn more languages quicker)
Bracers of Armour +2: UNCLAIMED, Bag of Holding
Chainmail of Spell Resistance: UNCLAIMED, Bag of Holding
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Post by Hero on Dec 16, 2004 12:15:27 GMT -5
Intelligence boosting items don't give you more skill points.
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Post by TheUdjat on Dec 16, 2004 12:17:56 GMT -5
There's one too many Rings of Protection in that list. I don't think Krysta got one.
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Post by Toptomcat on Dec 16, 2004 12:32:37 GMT -5
They really should, it's just that the accounting is too complex.
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Post by Fangor the Fierce on Dec 16, 2004 13:29:34 GMT -5
Sorry, there should be a total of 4 RoP. Newt, Galdren, Girud and Callian get them.
Mordrock: Bracers of Archery, Robe of Blending, Headband of Intellect +2 (Great for his Knowledge Master's Troops Checks)
Krysta: Elven Chainmail +2, Quiver of Elhonna, +2 Mighty composite Longbow of Shock, Ring of Evasion
Hero: Cloak of Resistance +2, Ring of Minor Cold Resistance
Callian: Ring of Protection +2
Newt: Boots and Cloak of Elvenkind, Ring of Protection +2
Girud: Boots fo Levitation, Ring of Feather Falling, Bag of Holding Type III, Cloak of Resistance +2, Ring of Protection +2
Galdren: +1 Ghost Touch Mighty Composite Longbow of Shock, Cloak of resistance +2, Ring of Protection +2, +2 Chainmail
Caelith: Ring of Force Shield, Ring of Sustenance, Spell Book 1, Spell Book 2, Wand of Magic Missile, Wand of Searing Light, Bracers of Armour +2, and Headband of Intellect+4
+1 Shield: UNCLAIMED, Bag of Holding
Bracers of Armour +2: UNCLAIMED, Bag of Holding
Chainmail of Spell Resistance: UNCLAIMED, Bag of Holding
Anything else I overlooked/missed?
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Post by Wizard on Dec 16, 2004 15:22:49 GMT -5
Intelligence boosting items don't give you more skill points. Oh, MAN do I have a chip on my shoulder with the designers about that. So cover your ears if you don't like rants, 'cause this is one of my bigger ones. The stated reason that Int-boosting items no longer give skill points was that people got confused as to what happened when characters took those items off. Did they lose those skill points? And if not, couldn't you just put it on right before you leveled to get extra skill points? If you find yourself floundering as a designer, with seemingly no way out of this problem, ask yourself how you can translate what works in the real world into mechanics. (It's not too hard.) Int is described as reasoning ability, memory, and the ability to make connections. Hence, Int's contribution to skill points can be defined as "learning over time." Obviously, then, a character needs to wear the freaking headband for at least a majority of his leveling time. To discourage arguments between players and the DM, and prevent this from being a "must-have," make it required that the character wears the thing from when he leveled last time to when he levels this time. If he takes it off, no skill points. Maybe allow him to take it off for bed or something. And then when the character takes the headband off for good, the points stay. Why? If you were somehow made stupider, would you forget everything you'd learned? Of course not! You might be worse at things requiring intelligence (hint: Int mods!), but you'd still have the knowledge, if not the capability to use it as well. There. Was that so hard? [/rant] |
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Post by Hero on Dec 16, 2004 15:54:14 GMT -5
Um.....I...I'm just saying is all...you know?
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Post by Jevva on Dec 16, 2004 15:57:12 GMT -5
Oh wow, I'm an idiot. I have a RoP +1 that was just displaced by my RoP +2, so if anybody wants it...
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Post by K Man on Dec 16, 2004 15:57:20 GMT -5
I have to side with Wiz on this one, it was a cop out for the designers.
Personally, I see no reason not to have headbands give extra skill points.
However, I still like the idea of once the magic is gone, the skills are gone. The magic enhances your brain, making it work above and beyond what the gods gifted you with...hence no magic, no more remembering how to tie that double-sailor knot, but lacing your shoes still comes easily.
Just my two cents...but I don't design this game.
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Post by Fangor the Fierce on Dec 16, 2004 15:59:59 GMT -5
Hey Jevva, was that ring from the Elves??? IF so, it's a nice gem, but that's about it....
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Post by Toptomcat on Dec 16, 2004 16:06:47 GMT -5
Let's stop with the Headband debate, or at least move it to a new thread- we want to avoid hijacking.
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Post by Wizard on Dec 16, 2004 18:18:04 GMT -5
Um.....I...I'm just saying is all...you know? Hero, that's hilarious. ;D    |
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Post by TheUdjat on Dec 17, 2004 10:22:19 GMT -5
If the ROP works, give it to Garor. He could use another AC boost.
Also, if Garor is branching off alone (or possibly with Newt), should we transfer that bag of holding to someone else? Callian/Caelith?
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Post by BluSpecs on Dec 17, 2004 11:04:52 GMT -5
Yup is Garor leaves on his own he will give the bag o' holding back to the group.
I'm a bit torn as to when he'll leave as the situation here is still pretty bad.... I'm thinking it will be after the elf-stolen-shard is recovered from the ground.
Cool I'll take the +1 ring if you don't mind then...
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