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Post by Fangor the Fierce on Feb 27, 2006 11:30:17 GMT -5
Hey guys, with all the knowledge here, I am sure that someone can help. I am wanting to know the price of having a pair of bracers made that would grant the user the spell True Strike. It's a first level spell, and can be cast as a first level caster, so that's the easy part. I am wondering how much it would cost for the bracers to be in effect at all times, or even 5/day or something to that effect. Or is it not possible with that spell?
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Post by TheZebraShakes™ on Feb 27, 2006 14:27:55 GMT -5
It would probably be a x uses per day item if in fact it can be made into an item.
It is possible to have a wand of true strike.
Lin would probably be able to help on this one. I don't really dabble too much in the magic items creation area.
Though you may just want to use your bracers slot for bracers of armor if you haven't already so you don't always have to worry about casting mage armor.
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Post by Althael on Feb 27, 2006 14:39:19 GMT -5
A pair of bracers of true strike would make the polar bear kinda, deadly. If he wasn't enough already...
Even if it is a low level spell, the benefits of a 'permanent' true strike effect would make the item rather costly. And I want one too. Now.
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Post by Fangor the Fierce on Feb 27, 2006 14:39:28 GMT -5
I just read up on this item, and yes, it's possible, and looking at the math, it would be something like 80,000 gp for a 1/day item to grant True Strike. Reason is, because of the other abilities it grants, such as touch attack, bypasses incorporeal, etc... Plus, it's cheesy.
I will stick to the wand, since it's a valid item.
As for the bracers, I don't see this guy wearing bracers for armour. Due to the fact that his Greater Mage Armour lasts for 10 hours/day. That should be plenty of time to not have to worry about it.
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Post by Althael on Feb 27, 2006 14:57:18 GMT -5
Can I know how you got 80,000gp?
I must be forgetting something... 1(caster lvl)x1(spell lvl)x2000(permanent effect)x4(duration measured in rounds)x2(for market price)= 16,000gp.
Or do the caster must be able to cast permanent too?
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Post by TheZebraShakes™ on Feb 27, 2006 15:00:16 GMT -5
Fangor's estimate sounds about right, plus yeah, it is a cheesy item
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Post by Fangor the Fierce on Feb 27, 2006 15:46:39 GMT -5
It's actually an item that WotC has done a full excerpt on why it's pretty much 400,000 for a continuous item, or 80,000 1/day item. Goes through the explaination of adding in the factor of ignoring the miss chance and such. Here's the info:::::
Use the Correct Formula: One item people frequently ask me about is a ring oftrue strike. The spell provides a whopping +20 insight bonus on attack rolls and negates miss chances arising from concealed targets. It's only 1st level, however, because it is a personal range spell with a duration of 1 round. That means you can normally manage one attack every 2 rounds when using the spell. Also, you can't bestow it on an ally (except for a familiar or animal companion) because of its personal range.
Assuming such a ring worked whenever it was needed and has a caster level of 1st, it would cost a mere 2,000 gp by the formula for a use-activated spell effect (in this case, 1 x 1 x 2,000 gp). Sharp-eyed readers will note that any continuously functioning item has a cost adjustment of x4 (see the footnotes to Table 7-33), which bumps up the ring's cost to 8,000 gp. That's a real bargain for an item that provides so much boost to a user's combat power. Much too great a bargain.
So, what would our example ring of true strike be worth? Insight bonuses aren't included on Table 7-33, but a weapon bonus has a cost equal to the bonus squared x 2,000 gp, so a +20 weapon would cost 800,000 gp. One can argue that the ring isn't quite as good as a +20 weapon because it doesn't provide a damage bonus. That, however, ignores the very potent ability to negate most miss chances. Also, the ring's insight bonus works with any sort of attack the wearer makes. On top of all that, the insight bonus stacks with any enhancement bonus from a magic weapon the wearer might wield. Still, 800,000 gp is a lot of cash and the lack of a damage bonus is significant, so some price reduction is in order. A 50% reduction might be in order, or 400,000 gp for the ring.
Would you pay 400,000 gp for a ring of true striking? I would if I could afford it. At a price of 400,000 gp, our mythical ring of true strike is something only an epic-level character could afford. That's fine, because epic play is where the ring belongs.
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