Character Ideas, need some help

[Rojito]

First off i have this really kewl idea for a very very big weapon, anyone know a way to make a character larger? i need it to stack with an enlarge already running...

Secondly anyone know a variant for a druid without spells? cause i love the wildshape idea, and have plans for such, but i dislike spellcasters

Also... i need a large... ok maybe gargantuan mount, would the Special Mount class feature work with umm size changers?

[Deekin]

Half-Giant, with Expansion to huge size. The same thing Nevitash does in the Dragonslayer game.

Also.

Ranger

A ranger might forgo training in weapon combat in exchange for the ability to take animal form and move swiftly through the woodlands.
Gain

Wild shape (as druid; Small or Medium animals only), fast movement (as barbarian).
Lose

Combat style, improved combat style, combat style mastery.

[Rojito]

true... true true, i am thinking of a Goliath though, not half-giant, picture this, level 5/10 ranger/ Maester of Many forms, and a level 8/6 Cavalier Goliath, with Enlarge and another size increasing spell so he himself is Huge, Useing his Build to increase weapon size, THEN useing the Feat Monkey grip to use a Collosal Lance,with a charge (deadly charge 3/day) he could do 6d6x4 with lance charge so 24d6 3/day

[Rojito]

you could even drop them 4 levels and ride a huge mount for the same thing! well less charges per day

[Deekin]

Monkey Grip and Powerful build don't stack.

Now if want to deal real charging damage, Chaotic Good Half-orc Ranger 2 / Fighter 4 / Barbarian 4 / Frenzied Berserker 10

The UberER Charger.

[Rojito]

darn your right, there goes that idea

[Rojito]

well another one, is there some way for a Scout to get a full attack off with his skirmish? I am sure i could do it with a mount (and i might be stuck doing it that way) but i was hopeing there was another way, a feat or something. I know if i really wanted to do it i could go a Scout/Dervish useing melee but i prefer ranged with the scout

[Wicksy]

deekin said:

Monkey Grip and Powerful build don't stack.

Now if want to deal real charging damage, Chaotic Good Half-orc Ranger 2 / Fighter 4 / Barbarian 4 / Frenzied Berserker 10

The UberER Charger.

That is beyond broken!

[Rojito]

Level 20 character designed to be broken, a few spells would pwn him no problem
A well thought out assassin would slaughter him

[TheUdjat]

rojito said:

well another one, is there some way for a Scout to get a full attack off with his skirmish? I am sure i could do it with a mount (and i might be stuck doing it that way) but i was hopeing there was another way, a feat or something. I know if i really wanted to do it i could go a Scout/Dervish useing melee but i prefer ranged with the scout

I'm pretty sure scout have to move themselves to get the skirmish bonus. It might even specify land speed (unless you're 'tweaked' like Scarlet).

The only way to get multiple shots with Skirmish is to invoke the might of Manyshot. Unfortunately, Manyshot only applies Skirmish on the first arrow. Unless, of course, you use Greater Manyshot:

GREATER MANYSHOT [GENERAL]
You are skilled at firing many arrows at once, even at different opponents.
Prerequisites: Dex 17, Manyshot, Point Blank Shot, Rapid Shot, base attack bonus +6.
Benefit: When you use the Manyshot feat, you can fire each arrow at a different target instead of firing all of them at the same target. You make a separate attack roll for each arrow, regardless of whether you fire them at separate targets or the same target. Your precision-based damage applies to each arrow fired, and, if you score a critical hit with more than one of the arrows, each critical hit deals critical damage.
Special: A fighter may select this feat as one of his fighter bonus feats.

The underlined section is the important part. Skirmish applies as precision-based damage.

Add to that Improved Skirmish (an additional +2d6, +2 AC if you move 20'), a high movement, and it gets even more obscene. That's four feats in all (Point Blank, Rapid Shot, Manyshot, Greater Manyshot), Scout level 8 (BAB +6) to dish out something like 3 shots of 5d6 damage with a shortbow. Maybe more, I don't have the pertinent books on me.

It also applies to melee weapons, so you could run around with a longspear or something and use that instead. Or be an elf and get the greater damage of longbows and longswords. There's all kinds of things that you can do.

Just remember that Undead, Constructs, and similar opponents will systematically kick your ass as a scout.

EDIT: Actually, there might be a way to do ridiculous ranged damage and retain your full attack. I don't recall the details, but Order of the Bow Initiate gets lots of +1d8 damage, and I don't think it has the condition of moving. You could just go up as Fighter into Order of the Bow, or you could be even crazier and go from the above Scout into Order of the Bow, letting the +1d8's stack on your +1d6's.

Oh yeah. It's a little nuts.

[TheUdjat]

rojito said:

Level 20 character designed to be broken, a few spells would pwn him no problem
A well thought out assassin would slaughter him

Ditto for your Enlarged-Huge-Colossal guy. Most min/maxed characters have pretty obvious flaws that aren't too much trouble to exploit.

[Rojito]

yeah also umm stacking Ranger/scout levels for favored enemy and then if you chose Favored Enemy Construct or whatever your skirmish deals damage to them

[Rojito]

Also umm anyone know how many combo feats there are? like Ranger/Scout combo feat, Swift Hunter, or Devoted Tracker for Paladin/Ranger combo? and what are all the combos? cause i kinda like the idea behind them but i cant find very many of them... i think i've found 9 so far...

[TheUdjat]

rojito said:

yeah also umm stacking Ranger/scout levels for favored enemy and then if you chose Favored Enemy Construct or whatever your skirmish deals damage to them

I could be wrong, but I don't think that's how it works. You can get your Favored Enemy damage, but not Skirmish.

That said, picking up Rapid Shot from Ranger and some good Favored Enemies (Undead, Construct) does give a character some versatility. Not much, but some.

[Rojito]

Prerequisite: Favored enemy, skirmish +1d6/+1 AC.
Benefit: Your ranger and scout levels stack for the purpose of determining the extra damage and bonus to Armor Class granted when skirmishing. For example, a 4th-level scout/1st-level ranger would deal an extra 2d6 points of damage and gain a +1 competence bonus to AC when skirmishing, as if she were a 5th-level scout.
Your ranger and scout levels also stack for the purpose of determining when you select additional favored enemies, as well as the total bonus granted against your favored enemies. For example, a 4th-level scout/1st-level ranger would have two favored enemies and could allocate an extra +2 bonus against one of those favored enemies, as if she were a 5th-level ranger.
In addition, your skirmish extra damage applies against any creature you have selected as a favored enemy, even if it is normally immune to extra damage from critical hits or skirmish attacks.

[TheUdjat]

Wow. I wonder how I missed that. That just made the feat so much more powerful.

Good catch.

[Rojito]

yeah i know had to read the thing twice before i really understood it, it makes scouts amazing pretty much all around

[Japic]

rojito said:

yeah i know had to read the thing twice before i really understood it, it makes scouts amazing pretty much all around

But they do need to live long enough to gain all those feats and BaB points.

If straight scout you neet to be atleast 11th level to even qualify for that feat. And since you don't normlly gain a feat at 11th you're waiting till 12th level to be able to use the feat.

That feat id definately a high level or multiclass type feat. Can't be done at low leves when you're likely to need it the most.

[TheUdjat]

japic said:

rojito said:

yeah i know had to read the thing twice before i really understood it, it makes scouts amazing pretty much all around

But they do need to live long enough to gain all those feats and BaB points.

If straight scout you neet to be atleast 11th level to even qualify for that feat. And since you don't normlly gain a feat at 11th you're waiting till 12th level to be able to use the feat.

That feat id definately a high level or multiclass type feat. Can't be done at low leves when you're likely to need it the most.

Are we still talking about Swift Hunter? Or do you mean Greater Manyshot?

[Japic]

Sorry... maybe I'm mixing the two. I had intended to speak about the Greater Manyshot... though I see now that I be wrong on pre-reqs.

Greater manyshot takes: Dex 17, Manyshot, Point Blank Shot, Rapid shot, base attack bonus +6.

So that's easier to get. Especially for a ranger type that gets those for basically free.

I don't suppose we could just ignore the posts by the half cognizant and not fully attentioned Japic. That would make things go smoother.