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Post by sageaqua on Jul 10, 2014 1:54:47 GMT -5
"A few notes related to Ka'lion (if I had been able to play him. He would of asked Xana to stay for two reasons: the first is the party new treasure has not been divided and he'd feel she was entitled to a share. The summoning circle he intends to use. But with assistance and support . the magic submarine he feels after it's been repaired could be used to explore the skeleton ship the party found but couldn't safely explore because no one else can swim. And that aside I think Ka'lion is developing a crush on her. Not sure. But it's good for roll playing. The other thing is Ka'lion would of asked if anyone could speak with the dead? Perhaps the dead man could tell them what the things are?" I'll make other notes are I see them.
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Post by sageaqua on Jul 10, 2014 2:09:29 GMT -5
Garrot will stare at the levers and randomly start pushing them, though he will try and watch closely to see what each one does. He will keep the key turned in the wall in hopes that something works. He pulls his goggles down over his eyes, and scrunches up his face as he pushes the levers, making "scorpion" sounds as he does so. He has no idea what a scorpion really sounds like so he simply makes a bunch of clacking sounds and the occasional "grrr......whooooosh" sound. ========================================================================== Ka'lion knows what it is but has not seen one before but his grandmother was always looking for one. He's going to fall down laughing
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Post by sageaqua on Jul 10, 2014 2:17:36 GMT -5
( ka'lion actions are to ride on runnaway and go and get the sister when she left and will come back with her. this is correct Ka'lion well ask her to stay but would not follow her for more then a few minutes. He'd point out to her she is missing her chance at some treasure and then let her her own choices.
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Post by sageaqua on Jul 10, 2014 2:34:48 GMT -5
Ka'lion would ask Xana to stay and he needs to return the scrolls to Altar anyway - so bur-town fine with him he just doesn't like or trust the priest and would hide his book before entering.
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Post by sageaqua on Jul 10, 2014 3:11:19 GMT -5
Once Ka'lion gets to the town he'd give Altars scrolls to the town guard and have them return the scrolls to Altor. His angers passed. Hell follow the group but once he sees that Ibaxian have gone after the barbarians Ka’lions vote is to go after them. He does not think the barbarians few remaining men can protect the women or their children from a ibaxian raiding party.
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Post by at on Jul 10, 2014 3:43:11 GMT -5
He would of asked Xana to stay for two reasons: the first is the party new treasure has not been divided and he'd feel she was entitled to a share. The summoning circle he intends to use. But with assistance and support. Ka'lion is able to follow Xana for a short distance until she vanishes down a narrow path towards Burr Town - knowing that he will be able to find her there he returns to the party and then travels with them back to the town where one of the guards confirms that Xana had indeed been seen should he wish to speak with her. The party hasn't found any treasure of note save for the construct and the magical symbol - the former cannot be divided and George seems reluctant to part with the latter (know:religion and know:arcane are appropriate tests but little can be learnt without specialist knowledge due to the obscure nature of the magic).Add any actions Ka'lion wishes to take before leaving Burr Town - assuming he is travelling south with the party. Magic scrolls have been removed from the item list.
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Post by (George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0) on Jul 10, 2014 3:47:06 GMT -5
Need to point out to ka'lion :
Geoge has made it very clear not to use the summoning circle,
if you do he will leave the party.
He has said to everyone so it's quite clear in how he feels about.
I know u have been out of game but george would have told him that when it was first found. Its not something he will give into so if you ask he will tell to drop the subject and move on.
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Post by sageaqua on Jul 10, 2014 4:17:28 GMT -5
Inside of the sub you said the party found some coins - they should be divided. ( you just didn't say how many?) As far as the circle Goerges feelings not with standing should be used. Ka'lion doesn't feel it relates to Orcus at all ) I think the GM role playing with you was missunderstood (Dan) I also think Xana smile was meant to be cute but you took it to mean she was making fun of Goerges feelings. As far as the circle we can wait on the circle as it's not worth breaking up the party over until we learn more about it. In any case. Ka'lion is not going to do much but follow the party out of town. He's staying with his horse.
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Post by harknail on Jul 10, 2014 4:18:47 GMT -5
" it is not wise to do either nor nither and hears lies the conundrum. You are so hasty to take charge but never think of the affect it has on your teammates or take head to any waring or advice. You put " the greater good" above our lives. I know your doing your best at leading but so far we dont function as a unit. A leader cant lead a team of I's and me's. If you say its cause of ka'lion you would end up not being correct. We need to start acting like a team and trust we have eachothers backs. Its why altar made me so angry was he turned on one of us. Doing so he therefore turned on all of us. Its why i was angry you still took something we should not have. That in all honesty should have left but you claim your still going to find out what it is. And you say trying to do good is what is best for everyone. Ka'lion and I dont see why we are being forced to gave to do good dispite what i have told you about letting people do as they wish . Meaning turst between us is not current with actions or words. Its why we cant go in or anyplace for that matter, not until we are a full unit. For if we keep refusing we will Die and fail as all teams of I do." As seems to be often the case, Georges comments leave Vadania confused. She answers as best she can, " If you don't think either checking out the inn or camping outside is a good idea, then what do you suggest? I don't think I'm the one who's hasty to take charge. And I do consider the effects on others for any decision I make, and I'll often take the most dangerous position to spare the rest of the team. And I do listen to the advice of the rest of you. I might not follow it if I think it unwise, but I consider it non the less." " As far as functioning as a unit, I don't think we are one. We're a bunch individuals with very different goals and approaches to danger. For example, you advised running from the activating summoning circle. I considered it, but that would have left the circle active and summing who knows what behind us. I didn't think that wise, so instead I dealt with it, by folding up the symbol. That stopped it from activating it, and we didn't have to leave anything behind." " Ka'lion follows me because I won't follow him. I claim no authority over him or anyone else here. I go where I feel I need to be. I force neither you nor Ka'lion to come along, although I do welcome your company. I try to find a path to please everyone as much as possible, that's why we wasted a day going to find the Wizard, because Ka'lion wanted to talk to him. But I'm not going to stop trying to save the entire fell just because you aren't interested in that path. I'm a druid of the fell, protecting the fell is what I do. "
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Post by (George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0) on Jul 10, 2014 4:40:15 GMT -5
" you cant stand to fallow. I see no reason for him not to lead. I questioned him at first but i see i was wrong. You say you cant fallow him but i think u can you just dont want too. you are able of such there is no want too."
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Post by at on Jul 10, 2014 5:33:04 GMT -5
Inside of the sub you said the party found some coins - they should be divided They are not of any currency the group is familiar with, but you can leave an even cut in weight for Xana at Burr Town if you wish. Their actual value is something you would have to negotiate with a trader based on their material and weight - a simple appraise roll would be suitable here.
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Post by sageaqua on Jul 10, 2014 11:45:16 GMT -5
I rolled a 2 = 1 great - as I recall some of the coins where gold anyone else with a posative chr would of done better.
Ka'lions apprasal is not likely to be as good as georges -1 chr+rollIuj223v6p_1-201-20
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Post by harknail on Jul 10, 2014 12:47:02 GMT -5
" you cant stand to fallow. I see no reason for him not to lead. I questioned him at first but i see i was wrong. You say you cant fallow him but i think u can you just dont want too. you are able of such there is no want too." Vadania answers, " I didn't say I can't follow him, I said I won't. And for good reason, he's the most unwise person I know. While he occasionally comes up with a good plan, more often than not his plans are very much not wise."
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Post by sageaqua on Jul 10, 2014 14:31:24 GMT -5
"If you'd like to follow my lead for a while and try it out George. Vadania can follow me or not as she chooses but she's going to end up out voted a lot. We can do that. Now do we have anyone in our party with strong appraisal skills. I have no idea what these coins are really worth." say's Ka’lion, “Where has Garrot disappeared to?”
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Post by harknail on Jul 10, 2014 14:46:04 GMT -5
Vadania answered, "I think he's still inside his new toy." She thumped the side of the construct to indicate the toy in question.
She continued, "As far as following you goes, no one else here can run away as fast as you do. If you're leading, the rest of us may find it difficult to keep up."
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Post by sageaqua on Jul 10, 2014 15:49:45 GMT -5
"People can follow me and at my speeds - we just need to get everyone horses. said Ka'lion, "And at this point I'm prepared to steal them if we have to. We have a lot to do and nearly no time to do it. Save the villages in less then a day and completely crush the goblins in less then a day then without any breaks race across the lands to the barbarian lands to fight a unknown number of ibaxian that clearly intend to silence the survivors from barbarian attack in clearwater. In fact saving them may in fact be more important then saving the villages from the goblins - but saving the villagers would give us access to the horses we need. Out of nesasty that is my price to help them at this point and we well not have time to treat any ones injures. We will need to treat our injured on the road. so the slow pokes ride and I run."
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Post by at on Jul 10, 2014 16:02:13 GMT -5
Appraise is INT based, however with that roll the best Ka'lion can manage is to sort out what appears to be gold and silver and vaguely weigh them against the other coins he carries. He'd guess around 20gp in gold and silver, and a selection of green copper coins.
I should add that fast horses will do you little good while dragging Garrots construct around. It can cover a fair amount of ground each day as it doesn't need to stop and rest, but it cannot move particularly quickly at any given time. It's steady but it's slow - no faster than George or Garrot on foot.
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Post by harknail on Jul 10, 2014 16:03:55 GMT -5
Vadania answers, "This is what I'm talking about. Horses aren't going to do any good for those who aren't trained to ride them. I have no interest in being stuck on a horse I can't control when trouble happens. Nor can Garrot's mechanism keep up. We aren't going to reach the surviving villagers in a day, nor are we likely to break the siege in a day once we do get there. Once that's done, we're not going to find what's left of the barbarian tribe in a day, if there is anything left of that tribe. We killed many of them ourselves, and did not see any survivors leaving."
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Post by sageaqua on Jul 10, 2014 16:49:59 GMT -5
"We leave the sub with the blacksmith while we travel until we have time to use it. The construct also completely destroys our ability to cover our tracks so it leads all enemies right to us. We never even looked for any barbarian survivors Vadania. We where to busy getting lost in time for over a month. For all we know all of them got up and returned home. As you clearly don't care if the barbarians are alive to give us the answers we need. I propose that we divide the party. George and I will try to save any barbarian survivors and you can fight the goblin on your own." said Ka'lion, "It does everything you wont. You don't have to follow my lead. You can avoid riding a horse. You can take your time fighting the goblins. You claim to be a good man but you are clearly incapable of forgiving an enemy. It reflex badly on you. I had expected better of you.
Look until we know why clearwater was attacked we will never know anything about why people died. And unless the barbarians are alive to talk unless we are going to spend years talking to their dead they can't be of any help to us. You are not a good leader. You are a good body guard and provider and friend most of the time. I hate dividing small parties - it's a good way to get killed but you are refusing to give me any other choice,"
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Post by (George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0) on Jul 10, 2014 19:22:58 GMT -5
" i did try to warn her and she said she takes my advice when she clearly has made her own mind. I point out she is not living up to her word she gave you. I am afraid there are too many questions of trust and Leadership here. Its best both sides go differently, as ka'lion has said, for he is right more so then you give him credit for.
Ka'lion im am happy to come along with under one condition, the summoner circle is kept with me and never used and if it does bad things to me you kill me. I can't trust it out of eye shot with anyone at this point.
nor you the book you have, it does mean that much that i do this, its the only thing i ask that and let me reprepare my spells to better fit journy into the fell . The rest you all devide as seen fit."
( Somehow i ended up with no appraise skill and i know i had ranks in it. I looked and its not on there.)
Can you agree to this?"
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