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Post by (George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0) on Mar 26, 2017 0:10:34 GMT -5
Dak looks even more confused at this point.
( To clearly clarify it is dak that is confused not me the player.)
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Post by kawaylon1 on Mar 26, 2017 9:57:50 GMT -5
Dak looks even more confused at this point. ( To clearly clarify it is dak that is confused not me the player.) I the player thought you the player understood so no issues there. replace he with she in my words to make better sense ty.
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Post by drwonga on Mar 28, 2017 19:08:19 GMT -5
A little unsure, Keiyanna stands back, her hand on her sword, still partially sheathed on her back.
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Post by Basnae on Mar 29, 2017 12:13:50 GMT -5
Basnae gives Keiyanna advantage on her next intimidate check
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Post by (George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0) on Mar 29, 2017 15:32:09 GMT -5
( dak is more confused with how these woman are behaving to eachother and why he was trying hard not to aleart others to his questions other then bishop. He figured the priest would give him most honesty on it.
Its why he was trying to ask the priest away from the group.
In the future i would like if we try more to not to jump into other players seens. It gets bit confusing where people are located and who is hearning what/where they are. )
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Post by at on Mar 29, 2017 16:35:29 GMT -5
Bishop answers the question as best he can, without speaking loudly enough to be overheard by the captives, "it is talk and bluff, they test one anothers resolve and seek to find something that they might use as leverage."
Looking towards the interrogation, "that you know respect is well and good but do not let it cloud your judgement. They are bound and questioned because they are brigands, and protecting others of their ilk, and know well enough that they will likely soon hang for it."
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Post by (George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0) on Mar 29, 2017 21:01:26 GMT -5
" I still dont get why hit them while they are already tied up, that only mean and harmfull and vilance and insults get only get hurt feelings to me that not nice. I know how to lie but thats goes beyond a lie.
I see A lie as words, that was physical i dont see how they are the same in any way.
Had they just did the mind thingy no harm would have been done to anyone and still got the key info. Yet somehow its not ok to do even if it causes the least harm. ?
I guess i dont get it because if you say you take the high road on one issue and turn around and take the well less high road on others it gets confusing witch is ok to do and when u can do them.
I dont want the team mad and i dont want beth to hate me , but i cant tell what is ok and not ok right now.
So i figure a priest would know best. If u say this is ok behavior i will trust it is."
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Post by harknail on Mar 29, 2017 22:01:10 GMT -5
OOC: Dak would have seen that just before Kamon-DO hit the bandit, the bandit was visibly trying to escape from the manacles. After being knocked down from a sitting position, the bandit stopped trying to escape (at least for the moment). I would think that Dak is smart enough to figure out why the bandit was hit without having to ask about it. Or did the player miss that the bandit was trying to escape?
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Post by (George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0) on Mar 30, 2017 0:32:19 GMT -5
( I did not miss any of it. He is just confused that moments before all of this the party was talking about how it was off limits to use mind trick and took a moral high ground on the subject only to see them seconds later hit a tided down women in the back of the head and strated screaming at her.
Its like seeing a sign that says we are open u get to the door its locked and no one inside. Its a very mixed signal to him.( me i clearly knew and agree with party. Also dak does not disagree with what is going on just not sure what it means.
I was as i always do try to rp the reaction i feel my character would give in any situation. This one is confusing to him to see this side of beth. He has never seen ladies act this way to eachother ever. Its his first adventure and seeing these acts are not punished or the different way punishment is carried out, and why.
To him if he used spells like friends charm person etc and other magic simular. He probably could get info but party said mind stuff was bad so he wont until he is told its ok to use it on people.
He asked who he felt would be most honest with him. He has never seen this side of beth and it worried him that maybe these missions changed her. So again all of this is in character there is 0 confusion here other then trying to figure out why part of his party did what they did.
Honestly i was just trying to have dak stay out of it thinking he had no place in the questioning. And saw the actions, was confused then talked to a priest about it.
I never just assume my character knows things even if the " stats" justify it, ya i could just say ok there is a stat but that rids it of rping for me.
so i never assume my character is in a sean,knows the info unless he asked,told.
We can honestly move on from this.
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Post by harknail on Apr 1, 2017 0:45:27 GMT -5
Mika looks at the captured bandit (passive insight) and then says, "You're scared. Specifically, you're more scared of your own gang then you are of us." Mika shakes her head, "What kind of monsters are you working with?"
The bandit just lays there glaring silently at Mika.
Anyone with a passive inside of 12 or higher can confirm Mika's observations. How does this information change your interrogation plans?
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Post by falconis on Apr 6, 2017 0:42:19 GMT -5
Aegis remains aloof in this situation, unclear as to what he could do to help. None of his spells could compel anything, but... "What'll they do to you if you talk and how could they find you if you were far from here?"
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Post by drwonga on Apr 6, 2017 17:04:40 GMT -5
"What would compel these bandits to stay together, if they are so scared of their own gang?"
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Post by harknail on Apr 6, 2017 17:10:04 GMT -5
Aegis remains aloof in this situation, unclear as to what he could do to help. None of his spells could compel anything, but... "What'll they do to you if you talk and how could they find you if you were far from here?" The bandit opens her mouth to answer, then thinks better of it and closes her mouth again.
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Post by harknail on Apr 6, 2017 17:22:33 GMT -5
"What would compel these bandits to stay together, if they are so scared of their own gang?" Mika answers, "I don't think they're scared of there gang normally, just afraid of what will happen to them if they leave, or if they divulge any information if captured. My guess is that they've been promised tortures that make what they do to merchants look mild." Mika was looking the bandit as she finished, and saw the eye's closing and the relaxing of her body laying on the ground as a sign of giving up. "I don't think we're going to get anywhere with words or threats. Saying we'll kill them if they don't talk isn't going to phase them, since such a death would be quick and easy. Nor do I think we can match the tortures that were promised, not and still be the people we are." OOC: Welcome to Fight Club. The first rule of Fight Club is: you do not talk about Fight Club. The second rule of Fight Club is: you DO NOT talk about Fight Club!
OOC2: There are persuasion approaches that have a chance to work, but the direct approach probably won't. If anyone comes up with an idea, feel free to try it (at this point it will be based more on the idea than on the characters charisma). Otherwise it will take magical/psionic persuasion to get them to talk.
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Post by kawaylon1 on Apr 6, 2017 21:43:39 GMT -5
OOC what would characters think of an intimidation while possibly breaking fingers(won't kill but will want to make pain stop.) only an idea.
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Post by harknail on Apr 6, 2017 23:59:14 GMT -5
OOC: Actual torture (as opposed to just the promise of torture) might work, although characters with a good alignment are likely to have problems with the degree of torture that would be required to break someone who's afraid of being tortured by a master.
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Post by Basnae on Apr 7, 2017 10:54:43 GMT -5
OOC: As a chaotic good aligned character, Basnae would find torture unacceptable.
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Post by Basnae on Apr 7, 2017 10:58:50 GMT -5
"What would it take for you to be protected from the gang? We can probably make sure that happens."
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Post by (George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0) on Apr 7, 2017 14:19:08 GMT -5
At this point dak is so board with all of this he picks out a few books in his pack and sits in the waggon and reads.
OOC: ( If you did torcher them dak would be so scared of who did so he could never say a word to them due to purely being afraid of said person(s). Thrack on the otherwise would not mind at all if he felt it would get the right info. In tourcher its never always just soild info some of ot is just to get u to hear what u want so that u will stop. These people would not give up the gang even in torcher from what mikia just told us. because of that i dont think he would go for it in this rare case.
Think Jack from 24.
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 10, 2017 19:49:47 GMT -5
"So your boss is going to torture you if you talk," says Beth. "Here's another thing that'll happen if you talk: we'll take down your boss, and he won't be doing jack-spit to you or to anyone else. You may have noticed that we're pretty badass."
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