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Post by (George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0) on Feb 19, 2014 0:53:25 GMT -5
Just going to point out something that is why George brings his fully stocked shop for that very reason.
He has rope, nets etc. Had you not been a dick to him he would let you use his things. insted if you try or do take his things he will be even more pissed and will stop you if you try using his things. regardless if we are in battle or not your not touching my things ever, and of you dont say your sorry for how u treated him, or take his things while im sleeping and he finds out your never getting another heal from him. so o just wanted that to be known a head of time, thought it only fair to tell u.
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Post by harknail on Feb 19, 2014 1:06:07 GMT -5
Um, I'd like to point out that he'd be taking your things to save your horse so you don't have to abandon your cart. If it wasn't for the cart and horse we could flee though the trees faster than these big things could follow. Also he came to fight them when he didn't have to.
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Post by (George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0) on Feb 19, 2014 1:26:30 GMT -5
Then He needs to tell him He is sorry and that. HE were in the wrong and mean it, then he will let him, only until then and not before. He never asked for Him to come back, for he never had to run off in the first place . not my characters fault his could not face the hard truth. All George did was he gave what he saw, he tried to help Him see things from a different view. what he got was it throne in his face. How he sees it an alliance does not lie to each other. how he sees it He is a walking threat to Georges safety, wagon/home and worse to the group in general. He does not get that, then that is on him . if he wishes to disrespect my character this is what he gets. how George has been treated by his is with no respect. just like my other character was yet unlike you thought i did not hold this new character for he has different thoughts and actions and how he deals with things as well as feeling then my other one did. Nor have i let past games with him affect my characters words or actions, you and him just thought i did and used it as a typical excuse to excuse his bad behavior. I tried to bury the hatchet with him weeks ago and I let his past actions in games go completely. i would not be trying to play with him had i not done that. then he back stabs me showing he never meant what he said to me and i took him at his work, he lied in and out of character so i called him on it in character as i should. Not allowing my past feelings in even tho it would be easy for me to do, for i keep my word to others. Had he just admitted he was wrong it would have been enough and still is when he is ready. then he comes up with this reaction by saying i never did put it behind me when I had. By doing so calling me a lair to my face and no one says anything and just lets it go I am not cool with this but we needed to move on. K i let it go til he says he was not in the wrong and its on me, that is what pissed me off. I think that is sad he thinks that cause I don't do that to people. I keep my word to others, just cause he can't does not mean he gets to immpune my honor the way he did. I know the kind of person i am and i would like peole to stop judging me for standing up for what i think is right.
It is about time he leans he can't get away with it all the time and pull this shit it makes game not fun i told him this more then once. I see and you keep giving in to him so he will not change cause he knows it works so he keeps doing it know he can. So this time the difference is George will not stand for his shit and will call him out. you have earn his respect to get it. You have, the wolf has as the rest have as well. Leaving one and only one who has not. His has to earn it the same way you all did, coming back does not even it, him omitting he was in the wrong will. So yes an official apology is needed.
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Post by sageaqua on Feb 19, 2014 3:47:10 GMT -5
Don't worry about it Harknail. Ka'lion already told George he wouldn't touch his things unless he was dead and inspite of of the danger he'd return to his camp before taking anything from him he didn't offer. Ka'lion does prefer to run away from a fight to find a better battle location if he can. The only reason he's helping the party right now is he thinks the "undead dragons are hunting him and he hoped his hammer would be good enough. As it is he does look crazy. He's attacking a dragon naked screaming about Jesters in a barbarian rage - I'd call that brave and then some. What George doesn't know is Ka'lion bares him no ill will. He'd use his heal spells to help him because when George first joined the party he heal Ka'lion and others in the party.
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Post by (George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0) on Feb 19, 2014 4:15:21 GMT -5
True to your point about ill will brave my ass btw, you just want to say look at me look at me your all wrong. what you gave him was distrust in return for helping you and then insulted his new friends and left them, when all they did was call you out for you doing stupid shit all the time. He felt you took him for a fool and he is not he heard exactly what you said so its not like he put words in you mouth or slandered you in any way. He just call it how he saw it, and let you know about it.
He is high int and wit i play him as such and will continue to do so. I get he does not mean ill will and i don't hold it vs him. If he says his sorry and mean it and can omit he was in the wrong George will forgive him and never bring it up showing your character grew a bit to him, if you can grow then there is room to change right now george does not see you can, will not help someone who can't help themselves from within first, he can see you need to do that first.
I get he is how he is. He is a character with feelings but as is mine, that does not mean George will roll over and get taken for a fool. He will not let you lie to him and not stand up for himself and call out the lie. If any other character lied to him and he found out, his reactions would be identical to his now that is why i know how he would react cause if i can see the situation and know what he would do, i do it and not hold back for it.
I know how to keep player and character apart and it is important to know how to do this in a game, in any rpg. This brings up also if he does not know it like you said. He can't act with that info for it is out of character if you put it in character then he can but that is up to you/him if he would or not. so his actions towards you will not change until then like i have been saying all this time. If this is what you want, truly want then give him a reason to in character. What i know and what he knows are not the same they are separate as they should be, i don't over lap it ever even if i know he is going to die for the actions i do them for it is in character and what they would do. the only time i did not is when i walk away from a game know the next action are not their own or lead to the kind of characters i hate to play with.
medagaming. and that is something players should never ever do even when asked to it is not fair to the dm or the players when people do so.
i think we need to get back to turns now, i have had my say and let you know, it is now up to you how you wish to act as he is a character in a game after all.
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Post by at on Feb 19, 2014 4:32:32 GMT -5
Thread for out of character stuff to keep the game thread clear and easy to follow
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Post by (George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0) on Feb 19, 2014 4:58:03 GMT -5
sorry and thank you. looking back I should have put it here but in the past not many people look here, or read things in here so i could see they would not see it, until put here by dm and told as such. that one is one me, from now on ill post things like this here.
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Post by sageaqua on Feb 19, 2014 5:16:58 GMT -5
I'm taking a look at the messages - I have nothing furher to say about this.
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Post by sageaqua on May 12, 2014 17:36:53 GMT -5
Using a cape to snare weapons is a feat if I have ever heard of one. Now some devices gift extra feats but my bet is the moon clocks power is resistance to heat based on how the clock feels - the GM said the it's cool to the touch. That would not be a bad result.
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Post by harknail on May 12, 2014 21:35:36 GMT -5
Using a cape to snare weapons is a feat if I have ever heard of one. Now some devices gift extra feats but my bet is the moon clocks power is resistance to heat based on how the clock feels - the GM said the it's cool to the touch. That would not be a bad result. |
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Post by sageaqua on May 12, 2014 22:48:39 GMT -5
If I remember correctly in the fighters handbook the feat for using a cape as a shield is listed. Now I don't own the book so I can't be sure and I don't remember what it was called. But it is listed as a feat - it's found with the two weapon feats listed. I tried to look it up but was unable to find it..
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Post by harknail on May 12, 2014 23:39:38 GMT -5
That's all well and good. But disarming an opponent is also the magical ability of the Cloak that Ka'lion selected, as hinted by the GM. If that's not something you want, then Ka'lion needs another cloak. But it might fit Ka'lion, that seems like something he'd like to do.
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Post by harknail on May 13, 2014 0:14:55 GMT -5
GM, I seem to have lost track of the potions Vadania has. All I have is "Several potions from mill", but she also had potions from earlier, the ones that were identified in exchange for her delivering a message here, though perhaps those were used or given to Ka'lion.
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Post by sageaqua on May 13, 2014 0:41:23 GMT -5
Ka'lion had them. He used them up.
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Post by at on May 13, 2014 3:38:39 GMT -5
Harknail - the magical item tracking sheet (http://kmansadventures.proboards.com/thread/8801/exceptional-magical-item-distribution) indicates that you have only scrolls left. Ka'lion has three potions left from the collection and George purchased a crate of them.
The capes are low-level (1000gp) magical items which can be strengthened and enhanced, but initially are quite limited - no shapeshifting or anything to that effect.
They function as battle capes - a non-proficient wearer can claim a +1 shield bonus from it. If an exotic shield proficiency is taken the cape's AC bonus (including any future enchantment) also applies to touch attacks and the user additionally gains a +4 to disarm attempts while wearing it.
Their 3/day magical properties will become apparent enough if identified. Eldon can actually tell you more about them if you hang around to speak with him, or you can work out what they do once in battle.
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Post by sageaqua on Jul 12, 2014 12:13:36 GMT -5
Ka'lion suggests they go into the mansion nearby to get out of the rain so treasure still undivided and and unused can be divided up. So far we have
These items as I recall are not yet owned by anyone - as they are unused - they should be divided between Ka'lion and Vadania
Partially identified Wand, command word known but unused (found, lizardman valley)
Magical weapon or armour crystal (found, lizardman valley)
Magical crystal on chain (found, lizardman valley)
Ancient Holy symbol of Pelor (found, beneath clearwater) - I seem to recall this is an artifact tied to the hammer but it was never owned by Ka'lion Lizard Valley treasure was divided up so everyone got something but a lot of it was never used because we don't know what it did. So Vadania should problenly get this - Pelor is a good god and Ka'lion has no intention of becoming good and Vadania claims to be so the artifact may become more powerful if she uses it. He'll offer to trade it for the unused wand and the two crystals from lizard valley. If she wants the hammer that goes with the artifact symbel that's fine with Ka'lion - Trade?
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Unidentified coinage ~20gp (found, burried construct near Burr Town)
divided between whole party equally Ka'lion, Vadania, George, Garrot, Xana, Lynette = that's 3 gp, 3 sp 3 cp each with 2 cp left over - he give Lynette her sisters share so she can give it to her when they see each other again. the two cp left he'll give to who ever wants them. then he gives his share to Vadania to pay her back for the sheild she helped him buy.
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Vadania cant use the cure light scrolls as she does not have spellcraft - so she may want to trade them to George or Ka'lion - as they have the skills required to use them.
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Construct walker (found, burried construct near Burr Town)
Magical symbol on tarp (found, burried construct near Burr Town)
Charred Scythe (taken from the possessed Ibixian in Burr Town)
These need to be divided - Lynette has no claim on the Scythe - But Ka'lion is thinking he'd like to use that. But is unsure if it's safe to do so.
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Is there anything else the party wants to trade for? Ka'lion would be welling to trade the hat of disguise for something useful - he's will point out it could be used to trick the goblins or the undead into beleaving you are one of them. He was plaining on doing that himself latter. But he will use it to look like a lizardman in the lizard valley or a local barbarain to speak with the barbarains if he needs to. So he'd want a good trade.
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To keep track of who is carrying what from where -
Somewhat unique 'normal' items in white
Magical items in yellow
Unidentified items in red
Vadania
Wooden Longsword +1, relic (found, beneath clearwater)
Masterwork leafweave studded leather (found, mill)
Wand of flame blade, 22 charges (found, mill)
5 scrolls, cure light
Oil of darkness (found, mill)
Vial of magical poison (found, mill)
Thunder cape (gift, Burr Town)
Dust of tracelessness, 1 use (given, Melwyn)
Ylva
Dragontooth necklace, natural attacks treated as magical (found, mill)
Ka'lion
Stone axe-head (found, beneath clearwater) ( this has been attached to a new handle) George gave it to him.
Magical warhammer +1, +1 saves vs arcane magic, relic (found, beneath clearwater)
Glowing book (broken lose from stand, beneath clearwater)
Acid dagger, +1d6 acid damage (traded from Altar)
Hat of disguise
2 healing potions
Moon cape (gift, Burr Town)
George (i'm aware these are to be divided up)
Darksteel mace, masterwork, +1 electrical damage (given by Imperius of Burr Town)
'Bright evening star', relic ring, light spell at will (heirloom)
8 scrolls cure light
Scrolls: 3 bless, 3 bane, 3 command, 5 cause fear, 3 bless weapon, 4 command, 3 obscuring mist, 5 comprehend lang.
17 potions of cure light
Ice cape (gift, Burr Town)
Garrot
Chronocharm of the laughing rogue (starting item)
Studded leather +1 (purchased)
Mask of mastery (found, mill)
Spear of impaling, touch attack with weapon 3/day (pulled from an undead wyvern)
Weapon crystals: d6 damage vs undead, draw weapon as free action, generate light 5'
Moon cape (gift, Burr Town)
Lynette
Ice cape (heirloom)
other items ... ?
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Post by at on Jul 12, 2014 12:40:56 GMT -5
As it's been a while i'll just refresh you memory of what you found in the buried church beneath the temple in clearwater -
The book stood on a pedestal before the gates to the demons prison, secured by gilded clamps until Ka'lion smashed the pedestal and took it. The book bore many symbols an images including that of the priests of the flame to the east, the rust hills to the north west beyond the barbarians lands, and the buried church itself.
Six statues to forgotten heroes decorated the room, one with a breastplate which Aelos still carries, one with the amulet that he bade Ka'lion deliver to the churches to the east when he fled the goblins, plus the wooden sword, axe head, and the hammer.
Finally there was a scarab brooch which the group appears to have misplaced ...
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Post by sageaqua on Jul 12, 2014 15:29:55 GMT -5
Ka;lion had the scarab and always wore it. He'll ask if anyone has seen it? If not - we have two theives in the party they may of barrrowed it and forgot to return it. He'll start to think about anyone that was looking at it, asked about it and the last time he remebers having it He'll also thinking about if anyone touched him near it recently.
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Post by (George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0) on Jul 12, 2014 23:11:07 GMT -5
Also elefant in the room how are we going to continue with plot with now 2 parties. Forcing ether side to make new characters would not be fair. Spliting the group i get dms dont want to run two sides/ two groups. I have done so and its not as hard as one would think. All i as is this needs to be done fairly. Cause both sides should still be allowed to keep their characters. if they wish, for we all spent a lot of time in development.
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Post by harknail on Jul 12, 2014 23:30:03 GMT -5
The GM will run unrelated adventures for each group. With this format neither group will have to wait for the other.
The question now is: Is George going to storm off now, or will he follow Ka'lion's suggestion to spend the night in the inn, split the loot, and go our separate ways in the morning?
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