Kobold Hall 1.5

[falconis]

OOC: Thanks.  Wasn't sure what to do

Aegis enters the tavern to collect his things.  Slipping past the party without noticing them conversing, he gets back down the stairs only to realize that they are all there.  Shifting things in his pack, he approaches the group.

"Did I miss a meeting or something?  Who is this guy?" he asked, pointing to Thrack.

[kawaylon1]

Feb 2, 2016 1:49:27 GMT -5 falconis said:

OOC: Thanks.  Wasn't sure what to do

Aegis enters the tavern to collect his things.  Slipping past the party without noticing them conversing, he gets back down the stairs only to realize that they are all there.  Shifting things in his pack, he approaches the group.

"Did I miss a meeting or something?  Who is this guy?" he asked, pointing to Thrack.

kamon-do says this is my buddy thrack.

[at]

Bishop offers his hand and accepts the drink, "My name is Bishop."

Taking a seat and motioning towards Thracks weapons, "you are not a member of the guard, might I ask your profession?"

[(George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0)]

" Thrack no work for people who tell others what to do, Thrack is free to do what Thrack wants. Giving Thrack lots of options.

Thrack play music to make others happy. Sometime Thrack makes some shiny that way.

Thrack Helps Elir when Thrack sees him, Elir gives Thrack lots of shiny.

In one town Thrack was "kick out" person for big bar. One night Thrack has to use Tables & Windows when bullies did not leave bar when Thrack asked nice. Thrack boss not happy with Thrack after Thrack stop bullies. Thrack not understand why."

Thrack had to find new thing to do.

Do you have new things you can give shiny to Thrack for? "

Then with a bit of a glare at Beth

" Gaurd lady said bad people are being bullies, Thrack good at stopping bullies and makes sure they can't anymore.

( occ : killing them is definitely a way of stopping them, until they come back from the dead.)

Yet gaurd lady refused to let Thrack do it his way.Telling Thrack what to do made Thrack mad. Thrack hate gaurd lady plan anyway so Thrack has little interest in that job right now, unless gaurd lady let's Thrack do it his way.



( you get the feeling he is advading your true question by telling what he use to do not his current job, but no malace nor ill intent. It could just meet he can't tell you or he does not trust you enough to tell you yet, tho from his scars you can tell he has seen a lot of fights.)

[falconis]

Feb 2, 2016 2:44:41 GMT -5 kawaylon1 said:

Feb 2, 2016 1:49:27 GMT -5 falconis said:

OOC: Thanks.  Wasn't sure what to do

Aegis enters the tavern to collect his things.  Slipping past the party without noticing them conversing, he gets back down the stairs only to realize that they are all there.  Shifting things in his pack, he approaches the group.

"Did I miss a meeting or something?  Who is this guy?" he asked, pointing to Thrack.

kamon-do says this is my buddy thrack.

Aegis is silent for a moment as he listens to Kamon-do and what Thrack is saying to the guardsmen.  Frowning, he sighs.  "I see" he says, looking over to Thrack and wondering why he seemed so hostile, "Are we about to be involved in another expedition?  I hope Hurick is leading us again, he's pretty good at leading a company of adventurers"

[harknail]

There's nothing wrong with Thrack being unhappy that Beth wants to capture the Bandits alive. That's roleplaying. As is Beth wanting to take them alive for her own personal reasons.

There's also nothing wrong with Aegis thinking Thrack is showing some hostility towards Beth (although obviously not open hostility), based on Thrack's reply to what his profession is, and wondering what the cause of it is. This is also roleplay, and may lead to some interaction between Aegis and Thrack as Aegis tries to determine what is up.

I've move this debate to a separate thread in the Out of Character area, along with my original reply. I've also called Thrack's player and he's OK now with Aegis's post. The problem was what was meant by Hostile, Thrack's player was thinking open hostility (as in about to attack), not the lower level unfriendly or opposed.

Now back to some great roleplaying Starting with someone answering Aegis's question about another expedition.

[Jasmine]

I think it would make sense for Bishop to take the lead on this one, since he would have been the one to approach Beth to get the team together. Beth has the authority of the law behind her, but she's also likely to defer to his greater experience and wisdom.

[kawaylon1]

I'm in this for the gold and magic gear to exact my vengeance on that wizard eventually so I'm good as long as I get paid lolz. 

[(George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0)]

( If the party want Thrack to come he needs to be told in character it's ok to kill the bad guys or at least the non surrendering ones. At this point he is unsure they him to come given what he knows of them so far.

Otherwise given who he is would have no reason to go after the bad guys and would just stay here playing the "music".)

[harknail]

Since they are currently talking about Bishop's quest, yes it makes sense for him to answer Aegis's question. But really, anyone (other than Thrack) could answer IC.

[kawaylon1]

Thrack want to help bow lady? I could use a strong friend out there. 

[(George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0)]

She sees a very confusing look in his eyes.

Thrack not understand now can Thrack kill bad guys or not? gaurd lady say not to so why Thrack go if Thrack told his way of help not wanted? Then now asked for help but told no kill, no kill mean Thrack no help. No trust in Thrack means Thrack not go. Bow lady friends not trust thrack. If the did they let Thrack kill bad men.


( Also I think it be fair to say if thrack is alowed to kill, then the party should know it's best let him kill things and not O it's at one hp and I'll k.O before he can kill it. That will just get him to go into rage regardless if it's a bad tactical move. Aka you stoll his kill from him. I would feel that is not fair to him. Yet I can't stop any other actions of characters from doing so I just did not want to surprise them when he reacts that way.

I just wanted to give fair warning it will upset him quite a bit if he goes and not a single bad men was put down like he agreed to.

In the off chance that does happen,
i don't see him staying after that for he would feel he was stright up lied to at that point and would not continue with the group.

So if he goes he should be alowed to do his thing.

I would like a middle ground found before we go, but I would like it found in character. Thrack feels this is key for this is key going forward cause I don't want this being an issue after we get past this. O in case people might be wondering and this is no way of your characters knowing this at lv 6 he will find inner peace become a monk and seek a new path of not killing. I need him to grow up til that point, he needs to start here so that he finds that peace then.)

[at]

Bishop speaks up in reply to Aegis and the others, "an expedition to Ravens Roost would not be at the behest of the guards, nor would it carry any promise of reward beyond the safety of this town and those would would live and travel here."

Aware that some of his potential allies might not think highly of such dangerous charity, "they attack only those too weak to defend themselves on the roads, take everything from those who yield, and execute those who do not."

[kawaylon1]

Feb 3, 2016 5:10:03 GMT -5 at said:

Bishop speaks up in reply to Aegis and the others, "an expedition to Ravens Roost would not be at the behest of the guards, nor would it carry any promise of reward beyond the safety of this town and those would would live and travel here."

Aware that some of his potential allies might not think highly of such dangerous charity, "they attack only those too weak to defend themselves on the roads, take everything from those who yield, and execute those who do not."

kamon-do scoffs at the word charity and stares a hole through thrack as she checks her gear and leaves the Inn. Elir was much better a comrade and I dont do charity. (she leaves the inn heading toward the gate.)  

[harknail]

OOC: It's fine to announce your character doesn't do charity, but having your character leave ends the discussion with no goal selected. If Kamon-DO makes her announcement and then stays, that leaves open the possibility of someone coming up with a way to make it profitable. By the way, I think most of the rewards for the kobold adventure came from what the group found (recovered stolen treasure), rather than the promised payment.

[falconis]

Feb 3, 2016 5:10:03 GMT -5 at said:

Bishop speaks up in reply to Aegis and the others, "an expedition to Ravens Roost would not be at the behest of the guards, nor would it carry any promise of reward beyond the safety of this town and those would would live and travel here."

Aware that some of his potential allies might not think highly of such dangerous charity, "they attack only those too weak to defend themselves on the roads, take everything from those who yield, and execute those who do not."

Aegis listened, nodding as he spoke up.  That did make sense.  "The safety of this town is important.  If we can capture these folk and turn them in to the guard, the better off we might be in regards to deterring crime.  If there is anything I've learned during my time as a sailor, bandits have relatives who want revenge and I would much rather not see those who would call evil men kin have a reason to come here" he explained, turning towards the group.  

Turning as he saw Kamon-do leave, he raised an eyebrow, "Are you alright?"

[(George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0)]

Thrack gets up from the table


To the party :

" Your dead set on non Thrack way. No let thrack do what is needed, Thrack can't agree to not.

I made bow lady promise so Thrack keep it now. Thrack wish rest of u luck, but city kill them anyway. Then kin come for city leaders and raise new flag on town. Thrack rather evil kin come for people who can stop them that way innocent don't get harmed at all. Thrack gave up on convincing you, it be pointless.

He packs up his things in a bit of a hurry and walks out with her.

Wait up bow lady Thrack comes with you too.

Let's go find that big house and go find shiny. Bow lady right Elir was good friend Thrack still learning how to be and Thrack sorry if his question upset friend. Thrack just confused in all this."

[harknail]

OOC: Has anyone else heard what Thrack is talking about? Specifically that Beth wants to capture the bandits alive?

I think the characters are being hasty in departing, since that means no excursion for anyone. Staying and working out differences could help cement the team together where walking out tears it apart. For example, Thrack keeps saying Beth won't let Thrack do it his way (which sounds selfish), but hasn't explained exactly what it was he was objecting too (take bandits alive).

[at]

Feb 3, 2016 14:41:53 GMT -5 harknail said:

OOC: Has anyone else heard what Thrack is talking about? Specifically that Beth wants to capture the bandits alive?

Bishop would have been with Beth her Erandil pointed her out, so to his understanding Thrack was a mercenary offering to capture or kill, provided you chose kill.

[(George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0)]

At this point everyone has made it quite clear to Thrack they are taking them alive. He is not a mersonary, he still has not told party what he does cause he does not trust them.

If you trust him to kill who needs to be it shows trust. You need to earn his trust Telling him no over and over ment " we don't trust you" over and over. Yet he still offered a drink to others but all he got was questions he could not be fully honest to.

He knew he could not say what he does cause he did not turst them. Yet he never lied.

Thrack is done talking to people who have shown him that they don't have any interest in how he does things nor respect him.

To him there is nothing to get out of telling him over and over he can't kill them. Ok so you don't want him to fine but to him that means you don't want help.

So he was leaving regardless but K beat him to it.