Cold Embraces

[sageaqua]

"As long as the glyph is not triggered by touching the box. We have options. If it was triggered by being near it Think should of triggered it when she tried to look inside. As far as spiders and most elements beside electricity or cold water should control the out come. It's not going to help with being turned to stone but most things water is a good defense - mage hand might work as far as picking the look but all we really need to a knock spell or a good theif. I'm sure Melvin can cast the required spells and the scrolls are more then enough to pay for it. And as he's without a home currently he might like the place. Someone put money in this place and reasonably secure." said Ka'lion

[harknail]

Vadania commented, "What do you do if the chest floats? After all, it is made of wood. Or if it doesn't float, and your opening it underwater, but if the contents is paper or books, which will be destroyed on flooded? Of course, this is all moot point since we don't have a pool of water handy and the chest is too heavy to transport."

[sageaqua]

" I thought Tink said the box was lead lined so the box will sink! Now as far as moving it my horse can drag it outside. All we need is rope and I've got plenty. I'll use a net around it and my horse to drag it outside. Depending on how much it weights I can put it on my horse. I'd need to walk but that's okay. We can handle this. It's within our abilities. Now take our water bags and tie the over the glyph. I'll get my horse." says Ka'lion before he gives Vedanta his water bag. a'lion brings his horse into the cave as far as he can. Ties off a rope and brings his net and rope into the room with the chest. Then he ties all of it together and drags the chest outside after making sure Vedanta blocked the glyph with the party's water bottles.

[Jasmine]

"Why don't we summon a creature to try and open the chest?" suggests Brennen. "If it sets off the glyph, the worst that will happen is it gets unsummoned."

[sageaqua]

"No the creature might die and if it didn't it could still be injured.

[Jasmine]

"Summoned creatures aren't killed, only dismissed. It's called creatures that can die," says Brennen.

[harknail]

"So when I summon a rat, it's not a real rat?" asks Vadania.

[sageaqua]

"So a creature thats on the edge of death Suddenly heals up when the spell ends? That doesn't add up. Called creatures remain with they die so you can eat them. I don't think anyones researched what happens to creatures once they return home assuming the teleport back where they where. Maybe I can create a called spell to summon bugs, rabbits, birds to eat." says Ka'lion

[Jasmine]

"It's a real rat, brought to your location with magic. But if it 'dies' while it's summoned, it just goes back to where it came from instead," explains Brennen.

"It still takes a while to re-form if you get poofed. You mortals could stand to be more considerate. We could be operating heavy machinery, you know," grumbles Tink.

"Have you ever operated heavy machinery, ever?"

"Well, no, but one of my friends said she once found herself popped onto the material plane while she was in the middle of a Scrabble game. After she was unsummoned, she didn't come back until the next day. Had to forfeit! It was awful!"

[harknail]

"That's a relief to know," said Vadania, though she had no idea what heavy machinery was. "I've always been reluctant to summon animals to send into danger. I think a large ape might be able to tear that box apart."

[sageaqua]

"If a creature is summoned in here, the creatures likely to run in fear. But if you can summon a galirlla to carry the box outside it would help." said Ka'lion

[at]

May 30, 2016 23:01:47 GMT -5 Jasmine said:

"It's a real rat, brought to your location with magic. But if it 'dies' while it's summoned, it just goes back to where it came from instead," explains Brennen.

(it should be noted that this is approximately true of extraplanar summons, but the full mechanics of summoning material creatures are unknown the Brennen (and all but the gods) - and is a hotly debated subject amongst arcane scholars, many of which suggest that conjuration spells of all kinds draw from ambient energy to manifest temporary life. Elemental conjuration is similarly considered to work by different means, and psuedonatural summoning is something best not dwelt on...)

[sageaqua]

So Ka'lions right. No one knows the truth. Now that would be a worth while research and could prove useful in the parties demon and devil research. Basically the question is why didn't the gods or powerful spell casters banish the demons or devils? Or where they born on this world? If that's the case we need some other options.

[Jasmine]

Nevertheless, there's no need to worry about causing harm to a real animal somewhere, so a summon seems worth trying.

[sageaqua]

"Not in this case. We'd just be summoning extra help but the warding spell that keeps the animals outside I'm sure will have an effect on them. But we can test it. Summon natures ally: summon monkey." cast Kalion then picks up the monkey and carry's it around the area.

[at]

The monkey is highly agitated but is not physically forced from the cave.

[sageaqua]

Kaolin well pet the monkey until the spell ends 4 rounds latter.

[harknail]

Vadania suggests he carry the monkey into the secret room with the chest to see it it's calmer there. The hide magic spell is only in that room, so perhaps the same is true for the repel animal spell.

OOC: How much control would Vadania have over a natures ally? From the text it looks like it will attack my enemies, but to ask it to do something else (like break open a chest) I need to talk to it.

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Jun 1, 2016 10:07:36 GMT -5 harknail said:

OOC: How much control would Vadania have over a natures ally? From the text it looks like it will attack my enemies, but to ask it to do something else (like break open a chest) I need to talk to it.

They are untrained wild animals who automatically treat your enemies as their enemies, and you as their friend, and who are indifferent (as befits its nature) to everyone else.

You need additional magic to communicate with the animal if you want it to attack specific targets, stop attacking, and so on though you can also pull animals off and use the handle animal skill (or just a shout for help) to redirect them. As a general rule a newly summoned animal will attack whatever is nearest to it when summoned, with a preference towards anyone or any thing that is obviously attacking you.

[sageaqua]

When Ka'lion carried the monkey around that included the back room and the cave entrance. This is the kind of thing Ka'lions been doing most of his life.