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Post by sageaqua on Jan 17, 2017 19:14:52 GMT -5
Did using his sword to turn the water cold do anything?
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Post by (George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0) on Jan 18, 2017 1:30:26 GMT -5
George on his turn will use create food and water. Mass amount of water will poor out of his hand.
Next ones going to bless it ka'lion. that was option my B vs zombies. they hate taking baths bless would only make it worse on them.
" Shamious attack at will please at the dick who thought it smart to pick a fight with the two best weapon welders in our land! Assesment says:U fed up buddy. See im one to live and let live most days, but u sent things that were on different paths to one not ment to be. That pisses off my god very much, so now we send you on yours to the after life u go and stay there !.
" With pleasure Sir, hey ass hole you hit me with dispare and fear now i hit you with MY Justice,MY wrath and by that way up yours!.
Sir i think im getting the hang of trash talking now!."
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Post by sageaqua on Jan 18, 2017 3:25:31 GMT -5
Ka'lion smiles, thinking we can't hear where they are going with all this noise. "Target the zombies George. They may fall!" warned Ka'lion
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Post by at on Jan 18, 2017 4:40:08 GMT -5
Given momentary space George creates a torrent of water that pushes the remaining spiders out into the hall and under the doors. With their summoner pulled away Ka'lion doubts any would be able to return before the spell came to an end. The zombies themselves do not seem to be heading towards a specific destination, simply away from George towards the stairs, but as Ka'lion peeks outside he can see one of the other doors - for the room adjacent to this one - has been opened. [Tag George/Shamious for saves - failing the save against nauseating doesn't matter as George will have a second chance to cast his spell next round without the spiders distracting him and and the spell creates 35+ gallons of water - only the poison has any lasting effect]
And the [Tag All] as the zombies fall back.Did using his sword to turn the water cold do anything? Chilled the water and made footing a little awkward - but it's hard to say if the spiders were frozen, drowned, or stepped on as there are so many of them. |
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Post by sageaqua on Jan 18, 2017 6:29:18 GMT -5
Does the door open into the room or out of the room?Basicly we are moving to get dry but I want to know if we put a stone chairs in front of the door are the zombies or spiders getting in?
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Post by at on Jan 18, 2017 6:31:08 GMT -5
Into the room - all doors open away from the hallway. There are no spiders or zombies emerging from the room (and Ka'lion can move to peer in if he wants, the zombie group have retreated past it - though it would put him in line of fire to the shadow-caster)
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Post by sageaqua on Jan 18, 2017 9:05:36 GMT -5
Ka'lion gets his gear and the party goes after the shadow caster we are not wanting for him to trap us in a room filled with spiders again.
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Post by (George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0) on Jan 19, 2017 2:26:29 GMT -5
tx9ktWr2p_1-20+6=12
p_1-20+6=25
Both for shamious
p_1-20+8=11
p_1-20+8=19
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Post by (George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0) on Jan 19, 2017 2:27:58 GMT -5
( can shamious move and get clear shots on the caster with 30 move speed ? )
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Post by at on Jan 19, 2017 4:54:16 GMT -5
Free of the spiders and the fear magic the group step out of the room as the shadow caster, lost once more in the darkness, falls back with his zombie horde away from George towards the staircase. The slow speed of the zombies means that any of the group could rush them down if desired. [Everyone saves, Tag all]( can shamious move and get clear shots on the caster with 30 move speed ? ) He is shooting through the zombies, but everyone can be in a position to take a shot before they shuffle up the stairs still retreating from the turn undead power. |
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Post by sageaqua on Jan 19, 2017 19:53:01 GMT -5
Ka'lion
JGYPUGPAp_1-20+8-1=11
p_1-20+8-1=13
Ka'lion casts create water on the stairaway under the shadow carters and the zombies - he's hoping to trip all of them and send them toumbling to the bottom. He hopes it will do plunty of damage. They should all make reflex saves at mines stuational - no one would exspect a waterfall on the stairway. would they?1-20�1-20
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Post by at on Jan 20, 2017 5:20:42 GMT -5
Ka'lion gets closer to the zombies and creates as much water as he can up the staircase (as they are ascending from the ground floor) - however 8 gallons spread across several seconds and such a wide area as the main staircase is less a waterfall and more a shower, and the zombies themselves are moving no faster than walking pace as they shuffle away from Georges magic.
An interesting strategy, but 8 gallons is only a small fishtanks worth of water - little more than 8lbs in total spread across too wide an area. Something for Ka'lion to keep in his arsenal for a higher caster level and narrower staircase.
Ka'lion and the others don't need to make any more saves as the spiders are gone.
[Tag George/Shamious]
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Post by sageaqua on Jan 20, 2017 7:12:02 GMT -5
8 gallions of water is 68 pounds of water. A galleon weigths 7.8 pounds per galleon. Salt water weigths over 8 pounds per galleon. Just thought youd like to knew.
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Post by at on Jan 20, 2017 7:50:17 GMT -5
8 gallions of water is 68 pounds of water. A galleon weigths 7.8 pounds per galleon. Salt water weigths over 8 pounds per galleon. Just thought youd like to knew.
Wasn't basing the outcome on the weight though (since i'm not sure what it would take to knock someone over) - rather I just looked up the size of an 8 gallon fish tank and used that as a basis and made a single REF roll just to see if it was enough to slow the zombies for a turn - DC10+spell level+Ka'lions wis mod
They got a 17. If I had rolled a 1 then a zombie or two may have stumbled but it isn't really enough water for the area. |
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Post by sageaqua on Jan 20, 2017 11:33:32 GMT -5
I was counting on the saves being indavigual and like any wet floor for people to fall and hoping for a snowball effect. Why do you think restronts use those pylons for wet floors - wet floors are slick.
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Post by at on Jan 20, 2017 12:56:18 GMT -5
I was counting on the saves being indavigual and like any wet floor for people to fall and hoping for a snowball effect. Why do you think restronts use those pylons for wet floors - wet floors are slick. |
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Post by sageaqua on Jan 20, 2017 14:22:39 GMT -5
Yes I would - grease I'd use to cast under stone furnicher to be able to move heavy things or on ropes or on chains or even wheels in case of rust. Perhaps the best place to use greese is unmoveable treasure. greese works much better casting it on the tartets feet. You should also note sleep and color spray do largely the same thing. So why do we have both of them? Basicly I would of given the zobies and shadow adept +4 to their saves but if they fell I'd give the others -2 to their saves not to be knocked down and if they where knocked down falling damage would be appropreite. which is 2d6 I think for every ten feet someone falls. They'd be falling on stone floor as someone that has had the wind knocked out of me when I fell ice staking. It took a little while to stand back up. But it is your game. I just think it's a bad call. Ka'lion doesn't have a lot of combat spells but this might one of his.
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Post by at on Jan 22, 2017 9:34:29 GMT -5
George and Shamious advance as Ka'lion tries to slow the zombies with water magic, and in the light of the magical ring George can see that the open door (to his left as he moves forward) leads to an empty dining room. He knows he can't get too close to the zombies without breaking the effect but he can guide their direction somewhat and can choose to try and keep them bunched up as their ascend the stairs or split then into two groups as the stairs split. [Tag George/Shamious]But it is your game. I just think it's a bad call. Ka'lion doesn't have a lot of combat spells but this might one of his.
This is also applies to all other effects - you don't need to make saves to catch fire when hit with a flaming sword for instance, people can't trip you up for falling damage by hitting the ground at your feet with an ice sword, lightning magic won't cause you to drop all your stuff or shock the guy standing next to you in metal armour, and so on. |
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Post by (George) 3.5./ ZEM ( 4.0) on Jan 22, 2017 13:09:05 GMT -5
( i was more or less waiting on where or not we had clear shots to the evil caster and that never got cleared up due to other spell questions.
The issue is this we could be running into yet another trap and we have lack of spells,sleep, yet we can let evil caster live. So of course we need to chase.
My understanding is Turn undead as worded in phb actually could have destroyed most of them not just turned them. So my issue is this: with georges Knowledge of undead he would have known that and would have done so, why then are they still moving at all? If any were still around he would have moved them in a way to give us a clear shot to evil caster and not let them give him cover.
So before we can act i feel those questions need to be soloved first.)
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Post by sageaqua on Jan 22, 2017 14:53:16 GMT -5
Ka'lion changes his spells at dusk as a druid and in the morning as a wizrd. So this is not an issue for him most of the time. He thinks of it as not put all your eggs in one basket. But I've been waiting for your action.
GM: is their some way to increase the writing size on site? I'm having eye sergery on monday and I've been told my eyes will be getting worse for a year before they get better.
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