Epilogue and Interlude

[crysun]

Jul 20, 2009 20:33:59 GMT -5 harknail said:

Jul 20, 2009 14:33:00 GMT -5 crysun said:

I was thinking about multi classing into Avenger for my 2nd level.

While I have no objections to that, the avenger’s oath of enmity power only lasts until the end of your next turn. So you would only be able to make use of the roll twice for two turns, and then only if you can avoid more enemies coming next to you on the second turn.

Doh! I just read the text of oath and not the multi-class version text that was above it. I knew it was too good to be true. I think I will just go with the toughness feat for the extra HP.

[harknail]

Also, if anyone wants to change character, now is the time to do so.

As the group was recovering, they often heard comments about the unseasonably cold weather. They could see for themselves how the morning fog burned off quickly, revealing storm clouds to the north. But the morning fog was soon replaced by a second layer of colder fog poring over the ridge. That day the fog lasted almost to sunset. The next day the fog lasted until a cold rain dispelled it in the late afternoon, but the sky remained overcast the rest of the day.

When people woke up the next day (the third day after the group had their adventure), there was no fog. But there was no rejoicing at the change of weather, for there was a frost covering everything, even worse for the farm crops than the fog had been.

[harknail]

I've added another thread to the background section, a list of people that have been named or described so far. I'll expand upon it as needed to keep it up to date. Howy is now on that list :-) You can see it here.

[crysun]

During the morning breakfast, Zynthis brings up the topic to the others "Do you suppose this weather could have an unnatural cause? We should investigate."

[harknail]

The group also needs to decide how they want to split up the money. So far they have found and/or received:
580 GP
400 SP
Ritural Book (Bharash)
Alchemist's Acid (Gabe)
Alchemist's Frost (Used by Thursagan)
Alchemist's Fire (Gabe)

Let me know if I missed anything.

[Ogremind]

Jul 20, 2009 23:25:04 GMT -5 harknail said:

Also, if anyone wants to change character, now is the time to do so.

As fun as I think it would be to try the wizard, with Barash in the party, I'll stick with Doran. But I think I will switch out my daily power.

[Ogremind]

Jul 21, 2009 0:43:04 GMT -5 harknail said:

The group also needs to decide how they want to split up the money. So far they have found and/or received:
580 GP
400 SP
Ritural Book (Bharash)
Alchemist's Acid (Gabe)
Alchemist's Frost (Used by Thursagan)
Alchemist's Fire (Gabe)

Let me know if I missed anything.

Doran pocketed 100 silver pieces off of the one of the early set of goblins (its on his character sheet). I don't think anyone noticed at the time.

[crysun]

Jul 21, 2009 9:13:35 GMT -5 Ogremind said:

Jul 21, 2009 0:43:04 GMT -5 harknail said:

The group also needs to decide how they want to split up the money. So far they have found and/or received:
580 GP
400 SP
Ritural Book (Bharash)
Alchemist's Acid (Gabe)
Alchemist's Frost (Used by Thursagan)
Alchemist's Fire (Gabe)

Let me know if I missed anything.

Doran pocketed 100 silver pieces off of the one of the early set of goblins (its on his character sheet). I don't think anyone noticed at the time.

Zynthis watches Doran to make sure he doesn't pick the party treasure's pocket.

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Realizing the current weather was abnormal Bharash ponders what could be causing it

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Arcana
[dice=20]
+9=22

Nature
[dice=20]
+7=14

Does the 580 GP include the 220 GP Bharash was paid for repairing the ship?
Assuming he had received it himself I was considering spending it all on ritual components. It had cost him 40 GP worth of components annd he was bound to be called on to use up more. If the others wanted to share in his reward he would at least expect to be allowed to buy a minimum of 40GP worth of components to replace those used.
Also if the topic of the book of rituals he found counting as group booty crops up, he looks quizzical as if he had not considered it. Then points out that if they can buy the correct inks copies of certain rituals can be made by other ritual users.

He also suggests that those who have recovered quickest who do not have rituals to attune to (if that is the correct phrase) check around the village to see what supplies they can actually spend their gold on.

I think we have enough to buy a level 1 or 2 item if we want and such things are available


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[harknail]

Jul 21, 2009 16:22:22 GMT -5 similar said:

Realizing the current weather was abnormal Bharash ponders what could be causing it

Bharash concludes that the most likely cause is that something to the north is tapping into a cold area of the plane of Elemental Chaos. The way things are getting worse rapidly is not a good sign!

His skill with nature allows him to realize that the crops cannot take much more of this extreme weather. They may have survived the frost last night, but are not likely to survive a colder frost tonight. A failure of the crops won't cause immediate problems, but would result in a famine once the stores of food from last year are exhausted.

Jul 21, 2009 16:22:22 GMT -5 similar said:

Does the 580 GP include the 220 GP Bharash was paid for repairing the ship?
Assuming he had received it himself I was considering spending it all on ritual components. It had cost him 40 GP worth of components annd he was bound to be called on to use up more. If the others wanted to share in his reward he would at least expect to be allowed to buy a minimum of 40GP worth of components to replace those used.
Also if the topic of the book of rituals he found counting as group booty crops up, he looks quizzical as if he had not considered it. Then points out that if they can buy the correct inks copies of certain rituals can be made by other ritual users.

He also suggests that those who have recovered quickest who do not have rituals to attune to (if that is the correct phrase) check around the village to see what supplies they can actually spend their gold on.

I think we have enough to buy a level 1 or 2 item if we want and such things are available

Yes, I am counting the 220 GP that the captain paid to Bharash as part of the group treasure. It is one of the treasure parcels (2 of them actually), but due to circumstances this amount would be paid to the Wizard who fixed the ship. The ritual components used for the spell were found early in the adventure, this converts them to cash and adds another treasure parcel. I will leave it up to you as to whether or not Bharash shares this gold with the others, but it will likely have an impact in how treasures are shared in the future.

Mundane supplies can be replaced without charge, up to and including sunrods. since Harknail didn't start with any sunrods, he will have to buy them if he is given any share of the money.

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Actually most of the ones found in the adventure were used to cast the silence spell just before the pan trap. Bharash started with 70GP worth he supplied himself and now has just 40 left so he certainly supplied most for the latest ritual himself. He (nor I) am being a cock about it. Of course 220 is more then enough to buy components and if anyone needs some he will offer. It is a good opportunity to buy ritual components (that will be used for the group) from group money rather then from his share though.

[harknail]

Jul 21, 2009 17:02:58 GMT -5 similar said:

Actually most of the ones found in the adventure were used to cast the silence spell just before the pan trap. Bharash started with 70GP worth he supplied himself and now has just 40 left so he certainly supplied most for the latest ritual himself. He (nor I) am being a cock about it. Of course 220 is more then enough to buy components and if anyone needs some he will offer. It is a good opportunity to buy ritual components (that will be used for the group) from group money rather then from his share though.

I didn't take into account the silence ritual when working out the treasure :-) You are quite correct, this is a good time to stock on ritual components. And even though Bharash has them and uses them (and perhaps Zynthis as well), he is using them on behalf of the party, so it's not the same as keeping treasure for his own personal gain.

In addition, Bharash has had enough time to master any two of the 3 new rituals, including the 2nd level Endure Elements. Let me know which ones you master.

[crysun]

I nominate Bharash as our party leader and monetary fund divider. I think having such a person would help speed things along.

[elricz]

Thursagan stays with the group, having changed his hammer for an axe. I enjoy playing him, so I have only done minor changes to make it easier for the forum format (reroll is hard to do in a play by post)

[Ogremind]

Jul 21, 2009 20:18:54 GMT -5 crysun said:

I nominate Bharash as our party leader and monetary fund divider. I think having such a person would help speed things along.

Oddly enough, our wizard is not the smartest character in the party. I nominate Gabe the Warlord to deal with the parceling of loot.

[Ogremind]

Jul 21, 2009 21:40:50 GMT -5 elricz said:

Thursagan stays with the group, having changed his hammer for an axe. I enjoy playing him, so I have only done minor changes to make it easier for the forum format (reroll is hard to do in a play by post)

d12 for a one handed weapon? Between that and the Bastard sword doing more damage than a great sword, 4th ed really hates two-handed weapon use. I would also call unbalanced on the Dwarven weapon feet, except that Dwarves are essentially at a -1 to hit and damage due to their stat bonus arrangement.

[cyco]

Jul 22, 2009 8:48:45 GMT -5 Ogremind said:

Jul 21, 2009 20:18:54 GMT -5 crysun said:

I nominate Bharash as our party leader and monetary fund divider. I think having such a person would help speed things along.

Oddly enough, our wizard is not the smartest character in the party. I nominate Gabe the Warlord to deal with the parceling of loot.

I sorry but I'll have to decline. I have rather a lot on my pbp plate at the moment and I'm likely to start getting confused if I try and track the loot here as well. I don't mind if IC Gabe handles it but another player will need to do the paperwork. Though I would suggest creating another thread to keep track of it as that works for me quite well in another game I play in.

[elricz]

Jul 22, 2009 8:59:18 GMT -5 Ogremind said:

Jul 21, 2009 21:40:50 GMT -5 elricz said:

Thursagan stays with the group, having changed his hammer for an axe. I enjoy playing him, so I have only done minor changes to make it easier for the forum format (reroll is hard to do in a play by post)

d12 for a one handed weapon? Between that and the Bastard sword doing more damage than a great sword, 4th ed really hates two-handed weapon use. I would also call unbalanced on the Dwarven weapon feet, except that Dwarves are essentially at a -1 to hit and damage due to their stat bonus arrangement.

That is why they are so good fighters. They can put their wisdom to good use on opportunity attacks and combat challenge (with the Devoted Challenge feat). The weapon feat is basically a two-in-one feat, to make up on damage for their lower accuracy.

[luke]

Jul 22, 2009 8:59:18 GMT -5 Ogremind said:

Jul 21, 2009 21:40:50 GMT -5 elricz said:

Thursagan stays with the group, having changed his hammer for an axe. I enjoy playing him, so I have only done minor changes to make it easier for the forum format (reroll is hard to do in a play by post)

d12 for a one handed weapon? Between that and the Bastard sword doing more damage than a great sword, 4th ed really hates two-handed weapon use. I would also call unbalanced on the Dwarven weapon feet, except that Dwarves are essentially at a -1 to hit and damage due to their stat bonus arrangement.

Yeah, the two-handers aren't all that impressive. On the other hand, off hand weapon use doesn't get you all that much either (two weapon fighting feat gets you the same +1 damage as wielding a versatile weapon one handed... I can sorta understand them not wanting to make two-handers much better than one-handers, because lots of classes just have no need for shields, so having the weapon be a two-hander vs. a one-hander isn't a significant cost.

[Ogremind]

Jul 22, 2009 9:45:31 GMT -5 luke said:

Jul 22, 2009 8:59:18 GMT -5 Ogremind said:

Yeah, the two-handers aren't all that impressive. On the other hand, off hand weapon use doesn't get you all that much either (two weapon fighting feat gets you the same +1 damage as wielding a versatile weapon one handed... I can sorta understand them not wanting to make two-handers much better than one-handers, because lots of classes just have no need for shields, so having the weapon be a two-hander vs. a one-hander isn't a significant cost.

But only the fighter (and maybe the Warlord) would really want to use two handed weapons, but they are sitting ducks without their shields, so, unless you are going for the reach thing like Gabe (in which the accuracy and damage of his pole arm don't actually matter), its not worth it. Worse, you are probably better off using a longsword in two hands (1d8+1) than a greatsword (1d10, same average damage), with only a minor difference on critical hits.
Granted, I'm probably biased on this, because the first or second character I always try to make in a new fantasy role paying system is a "sword dancer" (from the book): an agile duelist who uses a two handed sword and wears no armor (as it just gets in the way). The only time I got close was with an 30 th level 3.5 character -- and even then he was all strength based.