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Post by at on Apr 6, 2016 8:59:18 GMT -5
"The temple most likely to receive you is the Ivory Tower, far to the north. I can take you there but you must petition the priesthood on your own merits, and they do not call him Boccob the Uncaring without reason."
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Apr 6, 2016 12:05:14 GMT -5
Post by sageaqua on Apr 6, 2016 12:05:14 GMT -5
"We may need to trade favors. But if I remember correctly - teleport is weigh sensitive and this party including the animals are heavy." says Ka'lion, "And caption, you well loose a member of yourel party if we go in unprepared. I won't fight a demon or devil that has time magic without a great deal of preparation."
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Apr 6, 2016 12:17:05 GMT -5
Post by harknail on Apr 6, 2016 12:17:05 GMT -5
"And if we take as much time as you want to prepare, then the fiends will have already won," continued Vadania. "If we get teleported to the library, how do we get back? And how likely is it that they have anything more informative than what we already have?"
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Apr 6, 2016 16:19:09 GMT -5
Post by sageaqua on Apr 6, 2016 16:19:09 GMT -5
"So your saying you prefer to just go in fighting. Okay I'll go home as you don't need or want my help. Vadaniab that's why you are a tarable leader. Your far to impashent. You just think about the dying and that's all you think about. I think about the living. Your argument is it's in the way just kill it. My solution ends this problems for good. Your solution means in about 100 years someone needs to fight the demons all over again. My solution they never need to. So go right ahead and blindly attack the demons and forget the fact that the demon we are hunting took us out for more then a month. So when we woke up the village of Clearwater was undead and otherwise empty and the demon had more then enough time to create thousands of undead and it beat the fair out of us and left us for dead. So you go right ahead and attack the thing without even seeing it. And my bet is your going to be the next one the demon possess. We need to be prepared. And if you refuse to be prepared. I'm not going anywhere with you! Your complete lack of brains is stupid! You should know better. You claim to be wise. Honey - your not even close!" said Ka'lion, "I honestly don't care how many died. I wouldn't be able to do my job if I did. Most died before we even woke up. We can't restore those lives. None of us can do that. Now informed we might learn of a weakness. And I'm going to continue looking until I find it. I intend to win this war and wars are full of the dead!"
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Post by at on Apr 7, 2016 5:27:20 GMT -5
Orns watches on impassively as Vadania and Ka'lion break into their usual routine once more.
Nearby Tink realises that, as party leader elect, this is her mess to sort out.
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Apr 9, 2016 22:00:35 GMT -5
Post by harknail on Apr 9, 2016 22:00:35 GMT -5
Vadania replies, "It seems your response to anything is run away until you can plan how to beat it. You're fast enough that running away will usually work for you, the rest of us aren't so fast. Sometimes that works, a tomb full of skeletons would have been a hard fight when we first encountered them, but were an easy fight when we went back later. Other times the enemy is also preparing and getting stronger. While we're taking the time to visit libraries that might not have anything about this demon anyway, the demon is gathering allies and building it's power. I agree we can't yet fight the demon head on, but we can thwart it's minions from adding to it's power. We've twice encountered minor demons and thwarted them, in one case recapturing the demon before the container was forever destroyed. While you were on your own, I helped thwart another plan, keeping a ritual from being cast by possessed minions. With Tink, we'll have an even easier fight against the minions."
She continues, "We did loose in Clearwater, but then we didn't know what was going on then and were fighting the wrong side. I think the Shaman somehow figured out that Clearwater was slowly draining the demon's prison of holy water to use for drinking water. So he gathered some warriors to come and put a stop to that, but he was too late. The demon broke free and possessed the Shaman. The remaining Barbarian knocked the possessed Shaman into the pit, where the demon escaped though the underground city. There were powerful magics at work holding the demon, magic that would have been released uncontrolled when the prison was broken. I think that's the magic that propelled us forward in time."
OOC: Waiting for Tink and/or Brennen to take charge and decide what to do next.
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Apr 9, 2016 23:11:48 GMT -5
Post by Jasmine on Apr 9, 2016 23:11:48 GMT -5
Tink facepalms. "Okay, look...our biggest problem isn't that we don't know the enemy's weakness. Holy weapons and spell attacks should be fine, and if it's possessing someone else, we can just cut off its control until we can perform an exorcism. The bigger problem is that we don't know where it is or what it's doing. So what we really need is more up-to-date intelligence. Also, if we do need to perform an exorcism, we'll want a cleric."
Tink paces back and forth across Brennen's shoulders.
"I think the best thing to do next is to get the support of the churches. One, we may need a cleric anyway. Two, their divination spells may be more fruitful than Berith's. Three, there's a good chance they'll have useful information for us, too, maybe even a library of their own."
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Apr 10, 2016 1:22:59 GMT -5
Post by harknail on Apr 10, 2016 1:22:59 GMT -5
Vadania offered, "I know an old cleric of the Silver Flame named Eldon. He seemed to know a bit about the demons. Last I heard he had been captured and Altair was trying to rescue him. Hopefully he was successful. But he and Ka'lion didn't get along so well. Eldon wanted Ka'lion's golden book used to hunt the demons, but Ka'lion wanted to hide it so the demons couldn't find it. Even if that meant that no one had the information they needed to fight the demons. But Eldon was an old man, perhaps too old to travel with us. But there are probably other clerics of the Silver Flame that would assist us, especially if we were actually fighting the demon's forces[.b]"
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Apr 10, 2016 3:44:02 GMT -5
Post by at on Apr 10, 2016 3:44:02 GMT -5
Vadania offered, " I know an old cleric of the Silver Flame named Eldon. He seemed to know a bit about the demons. Last I heard he had been captured and Altair was trying to rescue him.[.b]" (Eldon had been captured by the Cabal at Clearwater, who released him as part of their negotiations with the Church of the Silver Flame - the group saw him at the negotiations and know that he has likely since travelled east with Altar and Lynette with a copy of Ka'lions book on parchment.
The partys old companion Aelos had previously asked Ka'lion to travel south and seek the aid of the crusaders in Merebas but (unknown to Vadania) Ka'lion had pawned off the holy symbol and travelled north. Berith did mention that forces in the south are mobilising, but not to pursue the devil into the desert empire.)
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Apr 10, 2016 15:41:54 GMT -5
Post by sageaqua on Apr 10, 2016 15:41:54 GMT -5
The holy symbol is among the junk at the castle in Burtown last the player recalls - Ka'lion felt that Aelos was being influenced by the bully Eldon and he took offense that he rescued the old man and the priest thought he could dictate Ka'lions actions - Ka'lion is a barbarian - and having the priest treat his belongs as the priests property was trespassing. A barbarian kills other barbarians for just touching their weapons - Ka’lion earned that book. It was his trophy. Eldon has no right to it. All that said. Ka’lion not mad about it anymore. He wont trust the priest or others that work for him but as long as Ka’lion supervises the books use. The priest could read it.
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Apr 10, 2016 17:09:22 GMT -5
Post by at on Apr 10, 2016 17:09:22 GMT -5
Is Ka'lion speaking out about his feelings or remaining silent?Ka'lion felt that Aelos was being influenced by the bully Eldon Aelos never met Eldon - he gave Ka'lion the holy symbol when they first went to the besieged camp with Rake and his group. You may be thinking of Lothian's disciple Altar who you met on your way to Burr.
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Apr 11, 2016 18:40:02 GMT -5
Post by sageaqua on Apr 11, 2016 18:40:02 GMT -5
I'm thinking about Altar - the holy simple didn't interest Ka'lion and he felt it was a distraction from talking to the barbarians and druids. Turns out talking to the barbarians would of provided useful information we never found out.
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Apr 12, 2016 8:25:00 GMT -5
Post by at on Apr 12, 2016 8:25:00 GMT -5
Berith awaits the partys decision, but does suggest that if they seek the aid of a priesthood they should be prepared for the politics and complications they will entail further from the Steadlands, "One priest can be an asset, many can be quite the liability. If it is only the service of one that you need then a follower of a less known faction would draw less attention, perhaps one of the western acolytes from the black port"
(the group is familiar with the reputation of the port of Blacksands to the west, a hive of scum and villainy... certainly a place to find more adventurous souls)
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Apr 12, 2016 11:45:30 GMT -5
Post by harknail on Apr 12, 2016 11:45:30 GMT -5
What about the Silver Flame as a source for a cleric? They are already committed to fighting these demons, though they were badly hurt when their monastery was taken over and so many were possessed.
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Apr 12, 2016 12:12:28 GMT -5
Post by at on Apr 12, 2016 12:12:28 GMT -5
What about the Silver Flame as a source for a cleric? They are already committed to fighting these demons, though they were badly hurt when their monastery was taken over and so many were possessed. There were not that Vadania would consider suitable to travel with them, but she does know that many of the churches crusaders and priests had drifted away when the prophesy their order had been preparing for did not come to pass. Some may have since returned upon hearing word of what happened, others still unaware would almost certainly support the group or the monastery should they be found - Brennen may have encountered one or rumours of one during his travels. Such individuals would likely be warrior-priests as befits the nature of their order, a trait that may or may not suit the partys needs, goals, and timescales.
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Apr 12, 2016 12:20:25 GMT -5
Post by harknail on Apr 12, 2016 12:20:25 GMT -5
Vadania will share what she knows of the Silver Flame, also that due to the last fight with a demon, she's now connected to the Silver Flame herself.
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Apr 12, 2016 15:27:46 GMT -5
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 12, 2016 15:27:46 GMT -5
"One priest can be an asset, many can be quite the liability. If it is only the service of one that you need then a follower of a less known faction would draw less attention, perhaps one of the western acolytes from the black port" "For someone supposedly concerned with sharing knowledge, you certainly are secretive," says Tink. "A larger faction can bring more resources to bear against the threat, and is more likely to have more powerful agents and more relevant intelligence. That's more important than keeping a low profile.""Right," says Brennen. "We might not need to travel with an army of priests, but we could tap into a superior support network."
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Apr 12, 2016 18:01:10 GMT -5
Post by at on Apr 12, 2016 18:01:10 GMT -5
"A larger faction can bring more resources to bear against the threat" "Therein lays the problem that any member of such a group represents the rest, and all that comes with it. These nations are rivals, proud and opposed in many things. Perhaps you can convince them to work together, or perhaps this demon will do it for you - but for all the threat it represents the beast has not gone out of its way to advertise its presence. Small actions, part of some plan, nothing that unites any force against it."
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Apr 14, 2016 3:51:59 GMT -5
Post by at on Apr 14, 2016 3:51:59 GMT -5
OOC: it's not that you can't get the help of larger organisations, rather that the group isn't the most diplomatic bunch and past interactions with NPCs has frequently led to frustration if they showed any resistance to the party line.
(Brennens Diplomacy score of +3 and special ability of 'scan DMs notes' is far and away the most capable social aspect of the party - Vadania is friendly but has no absolutely experience of social intrigue while Ka'lion is next of kin to chaos)
There are NPCs floating around that would be effective advocates/face men for the party if that is your course.
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Apr 14, 2016 4:10:39 GMT -5
Post by Jasmine on Apr 14, 2016 4:10:39 GMT -5
Hey, Tink has a +9. That's not that bad. And Brennen has +10 against humanoids thanks to Urban Empathy subbing in Knowledge (Local). Plus stack on aid another bonuses, and hopefully circumstance bonuses for having aligned interests (convincing a paladin to help battle evil outsiders can't be that hard, right?), and it could work.
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